Are you that ignorant? Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. The Holodomor, the Holocaust, WW2, the gulags, Mao's "great leap forward", Pol Pot and all the other communist massacres. North Korea, Cuba, etc. Every socialist or communist "revolution" that was a giant tantrum directed by sociopaths into a dictatorship starting with the french revolution.
Get off the internet and go read some proper history books, you're either literally a child or not mentally competent enough to be discussing politics. No American adult should be this ignorant.
high bar
No, you will find calls for murder and torture of people anywhere right of "men can be women if they cut their dicks off" all over mainstream social media. Feminist academia spouting kill all men, black supremacists shouting kill whitey, etc etc for decades. You're an intellectually dishonest goblin if you say you've found your way here to a niche site based off a decade old subcultural movement and not witnessed any of that in far more mainstream areas.
lol they’re leftists now? Mao is leftist?? North Korea is leftist??? Are you high?
Feet first into a wood chipper is still a higher bar. Is your argument that your rhetoric is brand new? Because, people insulting others for political party is older than dirt
National SOCIALISTS and the bolshevik communists were LEFTISTS!?!?!?!
Fucking yes, you delusional faggot. Strong central government / concentration of power, planned and state controlled economy, hallmarks of leftist systems. Are you actually one of those tankie retards tbat buy the "real communism has never been tried" shit and thinks all those communist countries somehow weren't communist because they didn't actually achieve your religion's mythical end state? Retarded.
Do you know what left and right actually are defined by? It's not retarded horseshoe theory, where you start blaming anything bad leftists do on them "swapping around" after they fail, or reddit's worthless political compass. It's individualism vs collectivism, libertarianism vs statism. Right wing extremists are anarchists. Left wing extremists are totalitarians. Authoritarian leftists, SOCIALISTS and COMMUNISTS were the driving forces behind every atrocity of the 20th century.
As for violence in modern discourse - Behold, faggot.
This is what leftists get away with. Burn loot murder rioters destroyed billions and caused deaths, and had a literal insurrection in Seattle. Meanwhile the largest right wing protest in the 21st century had one death, a protester shot by a cop, and yet it was screeched about by media for years calling it an insurrection, and thousands were jailed without trial for 4 years. Despite numerous leftist groups actually breaking into the capitol building in the past and doing more to threaten or harm, or things like the delusional leftist attacking the congressional baseball game to shoot at republicans - crickets.
You can see in the comments on any left wing site about the MULTIPLE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS on our current president that they cheer it on publicly and get away with it. Leftists are overwhelmingly more psychopathic than right wing people. The trend is extremely obvious to anyone with two brain cells.
You are pretending vast ignorance. You are intellectually dishonest in how you reply - you aren't arguing from any real position, you're wasting my time.
Are you actually one of those tankie retards tbat buy the "real communism has never been tried" shit and thinks all those communist countries somehow weren't communist because they didn't actually achieve your religion's mythical end state?
No. I'm saying that fascism and genocide are inherently anti leftist. Leftists are constantly embracing diversity and are forcing DEI hires and allowing for religious expression. Most of the figures you named before are in part defined by their oppression of specific groups of people.
Do you know what left and right actually are defined by? It's not retarded horseshoe theory, where you start blaming anything bad leftists do on them "swapping around" after they fail, or reddit's worthless political compass.
Of course! I agree 100%. This should be obvious.
Right wing extremists are anarchists. Left wing extremists are totalitarians. Authoritarian leftists, SOCIALISTS and COMMUNISTS were the driving forces behind every atrocity of the 20th century.
This sort of political spectrum is not linear. Left wing extremists can become totalitarian, as can right wing extremists. Right wing extremists can become anarchists, as can left wing extremists. These sorts of beliefs are not mutually exclusive. There is, in fact, the need to include the social, economic, etc right/left beliefs.
By saying "leftists," you're including anyone on the political left, which is largely anti-conflict/war, so there is a major discrepancy between the terminology and the reality.
things like the delusional leftist attacking the congressional baseball game to shoot at republicans - crickets.
I was on leftist sites, and it certainly wasn't crickets. He was shot and killed. People talked about it as a great argument for gun control, because people, in general, don't really like violence.
thousands were jailed without trial for 4 years.
I agree, the US justice system is poorly run and needs reform. Did you know that in the US roughly 1/4 of prisoners are jailed without trial?
There's an interesting article I found about prisons in general. It's a long read but I thought it was interesting!
You are intellectually dishonest in how you reply - you aren't arguing from any real position, you're wasting my time.
My argument is that pathetic internet mudslinging is not "invented" by leftists as if it's some mastermind plan, as if conservatives don't also have their pockets of extreme rhetoric calling for violence.
And that's just what they are, pockets. This is a pocket here and I have been on this site and sites like it for years. I see the shit that gets said here and it's heinous, and also gets cheered for. I saw the same sort of comments about Hillary, Obama, Biden, and more.
"But it's different," you might say, for this that or the other. They deserve it because xyz, or they started it. Nobody started it. It's been going on for centuries. It continues to bleed into political parties as they evolve over the course of time. It was just like this 10 years ago, 20 years ago, and beyond. THe only difference is now it's so easy to be aware of it, and obviously you're going to be outraged when the other side does it.
I recognize the "kill all men" rhetoric but I also have talked to women who say that and I don't actually get any heat at all. I've engaged with conversation with people on here and they'll literally tell me to kill myself when I say something even slightly against the grain.
I don't recall an instance where windows were smashed in by leftists to get into the capitol, but feel free to correct me.
I'm not trying to waste your time. I'm being 100% genuine with you. Don't mistake me disagreeing with you as trolling.
You disingenuous faggot - your argument was that right wingers here use violent speech and leftists didn't even come close, when the opposite is true. You aren't being genuine at all, you're spewing base retarded propaganda lines like "leftists OPPOSE GENOCIDE because we're thr GOOD GUYS that oppose BAD THING", outright ignoring and rejecting history and actual ideological structure and definition of what right and left are.
You are the most loathsome type of cretin - objective reality can't convince you that your "tribe" (because that is how you are defining leftists) is actually capable of wrong. You are not engaging in good faith discussion, you probably aren't even capable of such.
Pro and anti war is not a left or right position. Racial identity politics is collectivist, which is a left wing ideology. Every genocidal government in recent history has been left wing, every racial collectivist movement is left wing. Anarchists by definition cannot be left wing - "anarcho communists" are misguided retards. "Left libertarians" are not libertarians, they are degenerates. There is no pro big centralized government right wing party, those positions are mutually exclusive. Any objective measurement of ideologies has to be a linear scale. Left and right is the totalitarian - anarchist scale. I explained how the model you aren't even correctly describing is false - fascists were only propagandized into being "right" based on a non-objective false model.
Communists committed genocide multiple times. Describing leftism as "anti-genocide" is objectively false.
Are you that ignorant? Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. The Holodomor, the Holocaust, WW2, the gulags, Mao's "great leap forward", Pol Pot and all the other communist massacres. North Korea, Cuba, etc. Every socialist or communist "revolution" that was a giant tantrum directed by sociopaths into a dictatorship starting with the french revolution.
Get off the internet and go read some proper history books, you're either literally a child or not mentally competent enough to be discussing politics. No American adult should be this ignorant.
No, you will find calls for murder and torture of people anywhere right of "men can be women if they cut their dicks off" all over mainstream social media. Feminist academia spouting kill all men, black supremacists shouting kill whitey, etc etc for decades. You're an intellectually dishonest goblin if you say you've found your way here to a niche site based off a decade old subcultural movement and not witnessed any of that in far more mainstream areas.
lol they’re leftists now? Mao is leftist?? North Korea is leftist??? Are you high?
Feet first into a wood chipper is still a higher bar. Is your argument that your rhetoric is brand new? Because, people insulting others for political party is older than dirt
Fucking yes, you delusional faggot. Strong central government / concentration of power, planned and state controlled economy, hallmarks of leftist systems. Are you actually one of those tankie retards tbat buy the "real communism has never been tried" shit and thinks all those communist countries somehow weren't communist because they didn't actually achieve your religion's mythical end state? Retarded.
Do you know what left and right actually are defined by? It's not retarded horseshoe theory, where you start blaming anything bad leftists do on them "swapping around" after they fail, or reddit's worthless political compass. It's individualism vs collectivism, libertarianism vs statism. Right wing extremists are anarchists. Left wing extremists are totalitarians. Authoritarian leftists, SOCIALISTS and COMMUNISTS were the driving forces behind every atrocity of the 20th century.
As for violence in modern discourse - Behold, faggot.
https://youtu.be/hjVgbDXXA98?si=L82kNHBOuL-dbLbl
This is what leftists get away with. Burn loot murder rioters destroyed billions and caused deaths, and had a literal insurrection in Seattle. Meanwhile the largest right wing protest in the 21st century had one death, a protester shot by a cop, and yet it was screeched about by media for years calling it an insurrection, and thousands were jailed without trial for 4 years. Despite numerous leftist groups actually breaking into the capitol building in the past and doing more to threaten or harm, or things like the delusional leftist attacking the congressional baseball game to shoot at republicans - crickets.
You can see in the comments on any left wing site about the MULTIPLE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS on our current president that they cheer it on publicly and get away with it. Leftists are overwhelmingly more psychopathic than right wing people. The trend is extremely obvious to anyone with two brain cells.
You are pretending vast ignorance. You are intellectually dishonest in how you reply - you aren't arguing from any real position, you're wasting my time.
No. I'm saying that fascism and genocide are inherently anti leftist. Leftists are constantly embracing diversity and are forcing DEI hires and allowing for religious expression. Most of the figures you named before are in part defined by their oppression of specific groups of people.
Of course! I agree 100%. This should be obvious.
This sort of political spectrum is not linear. Left wing extremists can become totalitarian, as can right wing extremists. Right wing extremists can become anarchists, as can left wing extremists. These sorts of beliefs are not mutually exclusive. There is, in fact, the need to include the social, economic, etc right/left beliefs.
By saying "leftists," you're including anyone on the political left, which is largely anti-conflict/war, so there is a major discrepancy between the terminology and the reality.
I was on leftist sites, and it certainly wasn't crickets. He was shot and killed. People talked about it as a great argument for gun control, because people, in general, don't really like violence.
I agree, the US justice system is poorly run and needs reform. Did you know that in the US roughly 1/4 of prisoners are jailed without trial?
There's an interesting article I found about prisons in general. It's a long read but I thought it was interesting!
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2025.html
My argument is that pathetic internet mudslinging is not "invented" by leftists as if it's some mastermind plan, as if conservatives don't also have their pockets of extreme rhetoric calling for violence.
And that's just what they are, pockets. This is a pocket here and I have been on this site and sites like it for years. I see the shit that gets said here and it's heinous, and also gets cheered for. I saw the same sort of comments about Hillary, Obama, Biden, and more.
"But it's different," you might say, for this that or the other. They deserve it because xyz, or they started it. Nobody started it. It's been going on for centuries. It continues to bleed into political parties as they evolve over the course of time. It was just like this 10 years ago, 20 years ago, and beyond. THe only difference is now it's so easy to be aware of it, and obviously you're going to be outraged when the other side does it.
I recognize the "kill all men" rhetoric but I also have talked to women who say that and I don't actually get any heat at all. I've engaged with conversation with people on here and they'll literally tell me to kill myself when I say something even slightly against the grain.
I don't recall an instance where windows were smashed in by leftists to get into the capitol, but feel free to correct me.
I'm not trying to waste your time. I'm being 100% genuine with you. Don't mistake me disagreeing with you as trolling.
You disingenuous faggot - your argument was that right wingers here use violent speech and leftists didn't even come close, when the opposite is true. You aren't being genuine at all, you're spewing base retarded propaganda lines like "leftists OPPOSE GENOCIDE because we're thr GOOD GUYS that oppose BAD THING", outright ignoring and rejecting history and actual ideological structure and definition of what right and left are.
You are the most loathsome type of cretin - objective reality can't convince you that your "tribe" (because that is how you are defining leftists) is actually capable of wrong. You are not engaging in good faith discussion, you probably aren't even capable of such.
Pro and anti war is not a left or right position. Racial identity politics is collectivist, which is a left wing ideology. Every genocidal government in recent history has been left wing, every racial collectivist movement is left wing. Anarchists by definition cannot be left wing - "anarcho communists" are misguided retards. "Left libertarians" are not libertarians, they are degenerates. There is no pro big centralized government right wing party, those positions are mutually exclusive. Any objective measurement of ideologies has to be a linear scale. Left and right is the totalitarian - anarchist scale. I explained how the model you aren't even correctly describing is false - fascists were only propagandized into being "right" based on a non-objective false model.
Communists committed genocide multiple times. Describing leftism as "anti-genocide" is objectively false.