A core lie of the democrat party
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What’s your distinction? Again everything is there at 5 weeks, the only thing that occurs after is development.
Consciousness is not a basis of life by any definition, people in a coma are unconscious but alive, people asleep are unconscious but alive.
Then you agree we should be able to eliminate the children of murderers. There’s a reason rapists serve time comparable to murder and that basis was formed before abortion was legalized, do you know why that is?
The blueprint is there at day 1. All that occurs afterwards is development. Yet it's clear that a fertilized egg is quite different from an actual child.
I didn't say that it is, which is why I mentioned bacteria - alive but not conscious, and able to react to aversive stimuli.
Like I said, it'd have positive social impact, but no. I'm not sure you got my point. If I attach a human to you and it will die if you detach it, are you obliged to keep him attached to you?
Blow me away, but please include where you got that 'reason' so I know it does not come from you.
Blueprint is far different than functioning organs, which is week 5. Again there’s very little difference between a week 5 fetus and a newborn, the only difference is growth of organs that are already there.
And what is consciousness? It’s a very weak argument to make as a basis of anything. The average person spends 1/4-1/2 of their entire lives in an unconscious state. So what is the relevance of consciousness?
Yes? It’s literally 9 months, if you can’t take 9 months of your life to care for someone else then there’s no functional basis for society. In every similar instance to abortion people go to prison or pay massively for child abandonment, gross negligence, medical malpractice, manslaughter, etc. abortion is the exception versus the standard.
As far as why rape is treated as such, here’s the basis from the Bible itself.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-rape.html
A quick search shows various sources claiming that it's not a fetus until the 9th week. But let's defer this question for just a moment. So you support abortion until the 9th week then?
If your position on abortion depends on solving the question of what consciousness is, then you're never going to be able to establish it.
I'd ask you. You were mentioning zygotes allegedly reacting to stimuli, ergo an appeal to consciousness.
It's funny that you, despite all your talk of 'freedom' and 'rights', have no compunction about conscripting people for 9 months in service of a rapist.
No, even if it's Vivaldi or Einstein, you gotta go.
I skimmed your link don't see the connection with your claims.
Nope, brain and heart at 5 weeks, that is the medical basis we use to justify life, I only support abortion in medical emergency period, everything else is justifying murder and infantilism.
Consciousness was your argument
Incorrect, you made a retarded claim about feeling pain, I simply said a zygote responds to pain stimuli, which is correct.
We conscript people every second of every day for one means or another, we forced citizens to pay for the murder and mass sterilization of humans for years now, is 9 months truly such a terrible thing compared to infanticide and killing of an innocent person? Where’s that fetuses rights and freedoms?
Is the Bible for or against abortion? Why do they kill the man only if the women is spoken for?