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Kyiv Independent, funded by USAID in 2022 and 2023, posts video claiming that Donald Trump is a Russian asset (www.youtube.com)
posted 1 year ago by AntonioOfVenice 1 year ago by AntonioOfVenice +82 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I'd be more mad if Ukraine (1) were actually a real country and (2) wasn't run by the Western deep state.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Ukraine's a real country.

That is the only challengeable point in your sentence.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Doesn't look real to me. Look at any map in 1990. Do you see any state called 'Ukraine' there? Those lands were just Russia, same as they had been for 200 years, and the people have always been called 'Little Russians'.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Russia likes absorbing it's neighbors. Ask Poland. Most of those countries have ethnic groups that founded their nations. The Ukranians are Kyievan Rus that, in many cases, have lived outside the control of Russia; whether it's the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, or portions of the Ottoman Empire, or Austro-Hungarian Empire.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Russia likes absorbing it's neighbors. Ask Poland.

Poland was an actual state. Ukraine never was. And of course, Poland was partitioned by three countries, only one of which was Russia.

Most of those countries have ethnic groups that founded their nations. The Ukranians are Kyievan Rus

Kievan Rus was founded by Vikings, who in any case first founded Novgorod, which is in Russia. 'Ukrainians' are certainly not Kievan Rus. In fact, the heart of the supposed Ukrainian nation is the parts of the land that were ethnically cleansed of Poles after WW2. It's totally fake.

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