I don't know the context here, so I'll just speak on the broader issues.
Yeah, there's a lot of bullshit out there, that people shouldn't tolerate. There's also a lot of lazy fucks screaming "exploitation" and "capitalism" and demanding free gibs.
Ideally, we should have a fair system where people should and can 'pull themselves up by their bootstraps.' That's not exploitation, that's self improvement.
This is my lolbertarian side talking, but let's just cut out a bunch of the bullshit, and let people make up their own minds. Job sucks? Leave, and find a better one. You're not entitled to shit...but neither are employers.
Make your own job. Every plumber and contractor I know is killing it right now. You could probably pull six figures just doing easy shit like junk removal and pressure washing.
As someone who has two college STEM degrees and is currently working on a 3rd, I can't help but disagree. Toilet paper in the sense that the quality of education is shit and I should have been taught much more during my time in school, sure. But the fact of the matter is companies care enough about my toilet paper to offer me worthwhile jobs.
My nigger, I literally got a Psychology degree (miles below your STEM one in value and over-supply) and applied it to help me get multiple jobs over the years in completely unrelated fields.
And if in your entire degree all you learned was things that can only be used in that one specific field with no lateral applicability (or worse only studied to pass the tests), that's more on you than the job market.
Shit half the point of going to college is to network with people around you, many of them going into the same industry because you share a shit ton of classes over years.
The degree itself is the least useful thing they give you. Those are toilet paper because its often the bare minimum for any job related to it.
Hard disagree on the utility of a psychology degree. I do agree that the degree is the least useful thing they give you. Internships are way more important. More important than grades.
It has great utility, that's why I was able to make great use of it. But none of that was in anything remotely resembling the Psychology field because those jobs have 1000 applicants a day, even at PhD (or PsyD) level.
Even my Practicum wasn't in Psychology itself*, I volunteered with the local big brother type org for a year and gained considerable skills with children instead.
The classes aren't teaching you to pass the test, its supposed to be teaching you valuable skills that the test is making sure of. But so many STEM people just expect their degree to land them an instant job and forget all that.
*The largest supplier of positions for this was the local women's shelter, of which my professor forbid me from going to. In case anyone thought my misogyny wasn't limited to online.
Job sucks? Leave, and find a better one. You're not entitled to shit...but neither are employers
Something a lot of people don't understand is that employers are able to screw you over because you can easily be replaced. Therefore, a stable and healthy career includes obtaining desired skills that are hard to replace. Only then do you have negotiating power.
Until you obtain these skills, you should be happy to have a job at all.
a stable and healthy career includes obtaining desired skills that are hard to replace.
Not even necessarily hard to replace, just not easy.
Show up, do good work. Occasionally you'll get screwed, but if you really do good work, you'll generally land on your feet...and your ex-boss will probably suffer under a string of subhuman retards he tried to replace you with.
and your ex-boss will probably suffer under a string of subhuman retards he tried to replace you with.
My experience is that the ex-boss in this scenario is also a subhuman retard and will learn nothing because he wouldn't know a good worker if it bit him in the ass. Your advice is still good. It's ultimately on the worker to a place that's well run.
And if they, oh I don't know, decide to dump a shit load of Pajeets in the area to take the jobs for less? As much as I would agree with that notion in a just world with honorable employers...
Until you obtain these skills, you should be happy to have a job at all.
And once we cull all the useless plebs who aren't ever going to be skilled enough for a job where you can make negotiations, then our society will be great again!
We can just fill those useless easily replaceable jobs with jeets and illegals to get us by, of course. While we shit on the less capable whites who can't make something of themselves for being worthless lazy losers who should be thankful they can be allowed to flip fucking burgers for pennies for us Real Chads in Real Jobs.
This mindset certainly isn't just repeating the exact same cycle that Boomers had that led us to half the messes we are trying to clean up right now.
Those are two separate sides of your argument. Gaining skills and being irreplaceable useful/good at your work are the best way to go about things and always will be.
Saying people should be happy to just have a job at all if they aren't part of the upper half of society, is egotistical speak from someone who thinks himself irreplaceable and above the lowly masses.
Its the exact mindset that is behind "if you don't go to college, you won't ever succeed at anything in life" that destroyed our entire job market, academia, and numerous other facets of society. Because civilization is filled with jobs that have low end or even no skills that are crucial to our functioning, and treating them as pathetic prizes easily replaced is how we end up with Jeets owning every gas station and Mexicans in every field.
Literally most people are incapable of cultivating truly irreplaceable skills. If the baseline for not being abused by your employers is 90th percentile abilities, then that shit isn’t going to work long term.
There's defiantly a lot of both going around. Self-improvement is possible, the people saying it can't be done are catastrophizing or hyperbolizing. Yes, you can buy a house, but it takes longer, and requires more savings and careful planning. More than it every used to. It is also true that this is the worst generation to have to face that problem, as they have the lowest work-ethic, worst time preference, and most cynicism than pretty much anyone but the millennials.
I don't know the context here, so I'll just speak on the broader issues.
Yeah, there's a lot of bullshit out there, that people shouldn't tolerate. There's also a lot of lazy fucks screaming "exploitation" and "capitalism" and demanding free gibs.
Ideally, we should have a fair system where people should and can 'pull themselves up by their bootstraps.' That's not exploitation, that's self improvement.
This is my lolbertarian side talking, but let's just cut out a bunch of the bullshit, and let people make up their own minds. Job sucks? Leave, and find a better one. You're not entitled to shit...but neither are employers.
Job sucks? Leave, and find a better one. You're not > entitled to shit...
That doesn't work out when there aren't any jobs. College STEM degrees are literally toilet paper, ask me how I know.
Make your own job. Every plumber and contractor I know is killing it right now. You could probably pull six figures just doing easy shit like junk removal and pressure washing.
As someone who has two college STEM degrees and is currently working on a 3rd, I can't help but disagree. Toilet paper in the sense that the quality of education is shit and I should have been taught much more during my time in school, sure. But the fact of the matter is companies care enough about my toilet paper to offer me worthwhile jobs.
My nigger, I literally got a Psychology degree (miles below your STEM one in value and over-supply) and applied it to help me get multiple jobs over the years in completely unrelated fields.
And if in your entire degree all you learned was things that can only be used in that one specific field with no lateral applicability (or worse only studied to pass the tests), that's more on you than the job market.
Shit half the point of going to college is to network with people around you, many of them going into the same industry because you share a shit ton of classes over years.
The degree itself is the least useful thing they give you. Those are toilet paper because its often the bare minimum for any job related to it.
Hard disagree on the utility of a psychology degree. I do agree that the degree is the least useful thing they give you. Internships are way more important. More important than grades.
It has great utility, that's why I was able to make great use of it. But none of that was in anything remotely resembling the Psychology field because those jobs have 1000 applicants a day, even at PhD (or PsyD) level.
Even my Practicum wasn't in Psychology itself*, I volunteered with the local big brother type org for a year and gained considerable skills with children instead.
The classes aren't teaching you to pass the test, its supposed to be teaching you valuable skills that the test is making sure of. But so many STEM people just expect their degree to land them an instant job and forget all that.
*The largest supplier of positions for this was the local women's shelter, of which my professor forbid me from going to. In case anyone thought my misogyny wasn't limited to online.
we get rid of the pajeets and the jobs that need to exist will be there
Something a lot of people don't understand is that employers are able to screw you over because you can easily be replaced. Therefore, a stable and healthy career includes obtaining desired skills that are hard to replace. Only then do you have negotiating power.
Until you obtain these skills, you should be happy to have a job at all.
Not even necessarily hard to replace, just not easy.
Show up, do good work. Occasionally you'll get screwed, but if you really do good work, you'll generally land on your feet...and your ex-boss will probably suffer under a string of subhuman retards he tried to replace you with.
My experience is that the ex-boss in this scenario is also a subhuman retard and will learn nothing because he wouldn't know a good worker if it bit him in the ass. Your advice is still good. It's ultimately on the worker to a place that's well run.
yep. it's amazing how rare the "actually doing the work" and "endeavoring to do good work" skills are.
And if they, oh I don't know, decide to dump a shit load of Pajeets in the area to take the jobs for less? As much as I would agree with that notion in a just world with honorable employers...
And once we cull all the useless plebs who aren't ever going to be skilled enough for a job where you can make negotiations, then our society will be great again!
We can just fill those useless easily replaceable jobs with jeets and illegals to get us by, of course. While we shit on the less capable whites who can't make something of themselves for being worthless lazy losers who should be thankful they can be allowed to flip fucking burgers for pennies for us Real Chads in Real Jobs.
This mindset certainly isn't just repeating the exact same cycle that Boomers had that led us to half the messes we are trying to clean up right now.
I'm not saying it's right or moral, that's just how it is. if you don't want to be replaced, don't be replaceable.
Those are two separate sides of your argument. Gaining skills and being irreplaceable useful/good at your work are the best way to go about things and always will be.
Saying people should be happy to just have a job at all if they aren't part of the upper half of society, is egotistical speak from someone who thinks himself irreplaceable and above the lowly masses.
Its the exact mindset that is behind "if you don't go to college, you won't ever succeed at anything in life" that destroyed our entire job market, academia, and numerous other facets of society. Because civilization is filled with jobs that have low end or even no skills that are crucial to our functioning, and treating them as pathetic prizes easily replaced is how we end up with Jeets owning every gas station and Mexicans in every field.
We import too much unskilled labor, while having exported most of our actually valuable low skill jobs.
Literally most people are incapable of cultivating truly irreplaceable skills. If the baseline for not being abused by your employers is 90th percentile abilities, then that shit isn’t going to work long term.
There's defiantly a lot of both going around. Self-improvement is possible, the people saying it can't be done are catastrophizing or hyperbolizing. Yes, you can buy a house, but it takes longer, and requires more savings and careful planning. More than it every used to. It is also true that this is the worst generation to have to face that problem, as they have the lowest work-ethic, worst time preference, and most cynicism than pretty much anyone but the millennials.