But he's also right that a bunch of Israelis and Zionists are doing absolutely atrocious things, and think they're not just right, but funny.
Not sure about the 'funny' part, but the 'right' part is definitely true. People badly want to believe that the team they support is the 'good guys', even though this is rarely the case. You see the same dynamic in Russia-fake Ukraine. Pro-'Ukraine' justifies its atrocities or denies them. Pro-Russia justifies its atrocities or denies them, like in Bucha.
There are a lot of retards around, war brings them out more, and especially an existential war that isn't "let's just destroy a country on the other side of the world".
Also, no one cares about atrocities. They only care about atrocities to try to make the other side the boogeyman.
The 'we have a right to rape prisoners of war" thing comes to mind as one of the more publicized examples.
That was so wild that I wonder if there wasn't some sort of mistranslation involved. Probably not, but it's just that crazy.
I also saw a pro-Israel person cheer when an airstrike killed the grandchildren of Haniyeh, the Hamas leader, who were widely suggested to be around 10.
You almost never see Zionists calling out atrocities from their own side, and will often jump up to justify them, in fact.
I'm not so sure. I see almost all of them saying "yeah, Netanyahu is bad, but I support Israel's right to exist" and stuff like that.
I also saw a pro-Israel person cheer when an airstrike killed the grandchildren of Haniyeh, the Hamas leader, who were widely suggested to be around 10.
Yikes.
I'm not so sure. I see almost all of them saying "yeah, Netanyahu is bad, but I support Israel's right to exist" and stuff like that.
Um. How can you mesh these two statements, just curious?
So they'll cheer on the murder of children, but you never see them justifying or cheering on stuff, and they just care about Israel's existence?
And, if you've already seen them cheering the bombing of children, why do you find it so unbelievable that they'd cheer on this, or say disgusting things? And why do you need more proof, when you've seen the behavior yourself, and even brought it up?
You wanted proof of "Israelis behaving like this," and then brought up an instance of...Israelis behaving like that.
Um. How can you mesh these two statements, just curious?
Me? I didn't say that, I just said that I see most pro-Israel say that.
And, if you've already seen them cheering the bombing of children, why do you find it so unbelievable that they'd cheer on this, or say disgusting things?
This image raises multiple red flags. The username includes 'jew', it has an Israeli flag, and the statement is clearly intended to make the guy who said it look bad - and to pin that on the Jews.
You wanted proof of "Israelis behaving like this," and then brought up an instance of...Israelis behaving like that.
Fair enough, I guess. I had inferred that to mean you didn't think there were any examples, but it doesn't have to be taken that way.
Still seems weird to demand examples, when you know there are examples like POW rape and child bombing.
This image raises multiple red flags. The username includes 'jew', it has an Israeli flag, and the statement is clearly intended to make the guy who said it look bad - and to pin that on the Jews.
Yeah, it's suspicious, sure. I'd be more suspicious if I hadn't seen IDF retards committing atrocities while laughing about it, and so many people backing them up. The flag is the flag of Israel, not Jews. It gets messy because it's the Jewish State of Israel™ and all that, but there's a bunch of overlap, and you do have plenty of supporters of Israel who loudly wave the flag and proclaim themselves Jews, and plenty of supporters who also support atrocities. Which is why I don't find this unbelievable.
Even if Telia is making this about Jews as a whole, I don't think this is out of character for pro-Israel Jews. They do this shit quite often.
Fair enough, I guess. I had inferred that to mean you didn't think there were any examples, but it doesn't have to be taken that way.
I mean, if you're asking about 7 million people and 'acting badly', of course there will be some examples. Although this goes rather far. I don't think he - or you - can cite an example like this.
It gets messy because it's the Jewish State of Israel™ and all that, but there's a bunch of overlap, and you do have plenty of supporters of Israel who loudly wave the flag and proclaim themselves Jews, and plenty of supporters who also support atrocities. Which is why I don't find this unbelievable.
It's not unbelievable that someone would have an Israeli flag and 'Jew' in his name, though I rarely see both, but combined with a statement this extreme... yeah.
Even if Telia is making this about Jews as a whole, I don't think this is out of character for pro-Israel Jews. They do this shit quite often.
It's very out of character. "I want to rape paralyzed children" would be out of character for any group. No one does that, no one says that. Even Muslims who brag that due to ISIS "we can have slave girls again" wouldn't say that. It would be out of character for Muslims. It would be out of character for Kony.
People don't say stuff in a way that makes them look bad. Even the rape example you gave, they weren't chanting "WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO RAPE POWs", they were saying "these poor soldiers are being persecuted for the way they treated a Hamas terrorist who wants us dead".
Not sure about the 'funny' part, but the 'right' part is definitely true. People badly want to believe that the team they support is the 'good guys', even though this is rarely the case. You see the same dynamic in Russia-fake Ukraine. Pro-'Ukraine' justifies its atrocities or denies them. Pro-Russia justifies its atrocities or denies them, like in Bucha.
There are a lot of retards around, war brings them out more, and especially an existential war that isn't "let's just destroy a country on the other side of the world".
Also, no one cares about atrocities. They only care about atrocities to try to make the other side the boogeyman.
That was so wild that I wonder if there wasn't some sort of mistranslation involved. Probably not, but it's just that crazy.
I also saw a pro-Israel person cheer when an airstrike killed the grandchildren of Haniyeh, the Hamas leader, who were widely suggested to be around 10.
I'm not so sure. I see almost all of them saying "yeah, Netanyahu is bad, but I support Israel's right to exist" and stuff like that.
Yikes.
Um. How can you mesh these two statements, just curious?
So they'll cheer on the murder of children, but you never see them justifying or cheering on stuff, and they just care about Israel's existence?
And, if you've already seen them cheering the bombing of children, why do you find it so unbelievable that they'd cheer on this, or say disgusting things? And why do you need more proof, when you've seen the behavior yourself, and even brought it up?
You wanted proof of "Israelis behaving like this," and then brought up an instance of...Israelis behaving like that.
Me? I didn't say that, I just said that I see most pro-Israel say that.
This image raises multiple red flags. The username includes 'jew', it has an Israeli flag, and the statement is clearly intended to make the guy who said it look bad - and to pin that on the Jews.
I asked what example he had.
Fair enough, I guess. I had inferred that to mean you didn't think there were any examples, but it doesn't have to be taken that way.
Still seems weird to demand examples, when you know there are examples like POW rape and child bombing.
Yeah, it's suspicious, sure. I'd be more suspicious if I hadn't seen IDF retards committing atrocities while laughing about it, and so many people backing them up. The flag is the flag of Israel, not Jews. It gets messy because it's the Jewish State of Israel™ and all that, but there's a bunch of overlap, and you do have plenty of supporters of Israel who loudly wave the flag and proclaim themselves Jews, and plenty of supporters who also support atrocities. Which is why I don't find this unbelievable.
Even if Telia is making this about Jews as a whole, I don't think this is out of character for pro-Israel Jews. They do this shit quite often.
I mean, if you're asking about 7 million people and 'acting badly', of course there will be some examples. Although this goes rather far. I don't think he - or you - can cite an example like this.
It's not unbelievable that someone would have an Israeli flag and 'Jew' in his name, though I rarely see both, but combined with a statement this extreme... yeah.
It's very out of character. "I want to rape paralyzed children" would be out of character for any group. No one does that, no one says that. Even Muslims who brag that due to ISIS "we can have slave girls again" wouldn't say that. It would be out of character for Muslims. It would be out of character for Kony.
People don't say stuff in a way that makes them look bad. Even the rape example you gave, they weren't chanting "WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO RAPE POWs", they were saying "these poor soldiers are being persecuted for the way they treated a Hamas terrorist who wants us dead".