I didn't comment on H1B at all. I was making a statement on legal immigration in general. When I say 100 people, I'm talking about literal genius level talent, the likes of which is limited to a very small handful of people globally. The 0.0001%. I'm not talking about the hordes of 10s of thousands of pajeets.
Bringing in geniuses on the scale of 100s of people annually (in reality it might not even be that many), is not a slow death when it's a country of 300 million people, and it's ridiculous to suggest that it would be.
You've sperged about a lot of things wrong with the current system that I would largely agree with, but it has nothing to do with my comment. Yes, I would absolutely agree that we should be poaching the Norweigan genius as well. As a matter of fact, given the IQ distribution of a lot of the less desirable races, the foreign white or asian (chink not brown) genius should be much more common than the pajeet ones. It's all about creating a system with strict guidelines and ensuring it isn't exploited for uses beyond those that were intended.
I would agree that as executed now, these programs could be scaled down by like 99% or more, and I can't be bothered to go back and forth about where to draw that line within the remaining 1% when we are so far away from what either of us would want at this point. I'm content to just agree that we know which direction things need to be pushed; we can quabble over when to stop pushing later.
Your comment ties back to the problem associated with H1B visas, as well as all visa and immigration programs the U.S. is using. It's all a giant scam, which is what I was trying to explain to you. Until our countries (the entire White West) are fixed and run by our own people, with our own interests at heart, all immigration must be stopped. Any immigration that brings in people who aren't like us is traitorous by its very nature, and should be stopped. I don't care how smart the immigrants are. And, even if it were still only a handful of uber intelligent immigrants, it still results in foreigners gaining key positions in the upper echelons of society, which always results in antagonism toward the stock people of the nation, because the foreigners don't share our values or prioritize our people.
Bringing in geniuses on the scale of 100s of people annually (in reality it might not even be that many), is not a slow death when it's a country of 300 million people, and it's ridiculous to suggest that it would be.
Your musings on this issue are so wildly off of the reality of the situation that your idea can be ignored entirely. We're facing the systemic genocide of White people across the entire planet, and you're arguing about things which will never happen.
You've sperged about a lot of things wrong with the current system
My people are being genocided intentionally, and you call it "sperging out". Find better words to use. That, or you're revealing your true feelings, that you revile White people, and think we don't have natural rights, like having our own homes and nations, the right to protect our borders, the right to associate with whom we choose, the right to control who enters our homes and nations, the right to collectivize, the right to espouse and enforce our views, the right to violently stop the people hurting us.
and ensuring it isn't exploited for uses beyond those that were intended.
The U.S. was conquered, built, and maintained for White people, not the entire damned planet. One of the first acts the 1st Congress passed was limit immigration to White people of good standing. The Hart Celler act of 1965 changed U.S. immigration from White countries to non-white. So which is "intended" here, according to you? The laws currently on the books, laws which are corrupt and wanted by evil men, or the previous laws passed by our ancestors, laws based on logic and our natural rights?
I'm content to just agree that we know which direction things need to be pushed; we can quabble over when to stop pushing later.
Are you under the belief that we still have any room to compromise with the people trying to kill us? We're not voting our way out of this. The left and right are both in on the Kalergi plan. When you're right, you don't compromise. When someone is trying to kill you, you don't compromise.
Your musings on this issue are so wildly off of the reality of the situation that your idea can be ignored entirely. We're facing the systemic genocide of White people across the entire planet, and you're arguing about things which will never happen.
My "musings" are far closer to something that could happen than yours of shutting off any and all immigration "until our countries are fixed and run by our own people." Realistically, both are relatively unlikely in the current situation though, unfortunately.
My people are being genocided intentionally, and you call it "sperging out". Find better words to use. That, or you're revealing your true feelings, that you revile White people, and think we don't have natural rights, like having our own homes and nations, the right to protect our borders, the right to associate with whom we choose, the right to control who enters our homes and nations, the right to collectivize, the right to espouse and enforce our views, the right to violently stop the people hurting us.
I'm calling it what it is. You're turning away people who are 99% on your side with your retardation. I'm every bit as white as you, and yet in a couple of comments back and forth, you took "it would be best if we could let in like 100 geniuses and leave it at that" and turned it into "you're revealing your true feelings, that you revile white people." There is no universe where that isnt sperging.
I understand it's a very important issue and things can get emotional, but holy shit come on.
My "musings" are far closer to something that could happen than yours of shutting off any and all immigration "until our countries are fixed and run by our own people." Realistically, both are relatively unlikely in the current situation though, unfortunately.
No, you're not getting it. You're trying to offer a solution which doesn't actually fix the problem, a solution which would require various institutions to be uncorrupted, when they're not, operated by people that have our best interests at heart, when the antithesis is true. The government, the H1B program, all of immigration into the West, our leaders, the NGOs facilitating the mass immigration, open borders, DEI policies, affirmative action and diversity hiring quotas, they're all corrupt, and their entire purpose and function now is to replace and genocide White people in our own countries. Your "solution" is bullshit and will never be implemented by the people in power.
Your solution also hinges on the idea that we even need uber intelligent immigrants in our White nation. That proposal is so astoundingly naive to the nature of IQ and the history of White nations as to be laughable on every level. White people have never, ever needed uber intelligent immigrants in order for our nations to function. We've never needed non-whites to "do the jobs we don't want to do", when we've done those jobs for millennia, on our own, by ourselves. White people have made almost every single advancement, invention, and break through for the last several thousand years. We don't need uber intelligent immigrants to do anything for us. We're our own uber intelligent people. Unless, of course, you're arguing with immigration purely from White nations, which I'd be mostly okay with, if the numbers were kept in check to not disposess the native Whites like is currently being done.
You're turning away people who are 99% on your side with your retardation.
What people? What retardation? Be specific.
I'm every bit as white as you, and yet in a couple of comments back and forth, you took "it would be best if we could let in like 100 geniuses and leave it at that" and turned it into "you're revealing your true feelings, that you revile white people." There is no universe where that isnt sperging.
Your solution, and every idea you've presented in this debate, has been in service to the plans of evil people who are actively genociding White people. Your solution is a compromise with evil people. No more compromises. If someone is trying to kill you, you don't compromise with them, you kill them before they can kill you. If someone is trying to rape your mother, sister, wife, or daughter, you don't say "well you can only molest them a little" to compromise with them. You stop the threat. If you're right, you don't compromise with fools or liars. Just because I can elucidate this fact and be specific in my arguments doesn't mean I'm "sperging". You only use that word because I vehemently disagree with you and your compromises with evil.
I understand it's a very important issue and things can get emotional, but holy shit come on.
"If you get emotional at the genocide of your race, you're a bad person." That's what you're saying. You're arguing identically to all the other White people still plugged into the system, who have been brainwashed by the propaganda and still believe it, who view hate and anger as inherently wrong, who think we should be emotionless apathetic pacifistic inactive robots in the face of our entire people's genocide. The proper response to what's happening is a nigh endless rage. However, my justified rage is underwritten in my comments, not overtly spoken. You're only claiming I'm being emotional because I disagree with you, and are making comments longer than a 1 sentence quip, which doesn't prosper a debate on this issue.
I didn't comment on H1B at all. I was making a statement on legal immigration in general. When I say 100 people, I'm talking about literal genius level talent, the likes of which is limited to a very small handful of people globally. The 0.0001%. I'm not talking about the hordes of 10s of thousands of pajeets.
Bringing in geniuses on the scale of 100s of people annually (in reality it might not even be that many), is not a slow death when it's a country of 300 million people, and it's ridiculous to suggest that it would be.
You've sperged about a lot of things wrong with the current system that I would largely agree with, but it has nothing to do with my comment. Yes, I would absolutely agree that we should be poaching the Norweigan genius as well. As a matter of fact, given the IQ distribution of a lot of the less desirable races, the foreign white or asian (chink not brown) genius should be much more common than the pajeet ones. It's all about creating a system with strict guidelines and ensuring it isn't exploited for uses beyond those that were intended.
I would agree that as executed now, these programs could be scaled down by like 99% or more, and I can't be bothered to go back and forth about where to draw that line within the remaining 1% when we are so far away from what either of us would want at this point. I'm content to just agree that we know which direction things need to be pushed; we can quabble over when to stop pushing later.
Your comment ties back to the problem associated with H1B visas, as well as all visa and immigration programs the U.S. is using. It's all a giant scam, which is what I was trying to explain to you. Until our countries (the entire White West) are fixed and run by our own people, with our own interests at heart, all immigration must be stopped. Any immigration that brings in people who aren't like us is traitorous by its very nature, and should be stopped. I don't care how smart the immigrants are. And, even if it were still only a handful of uber intelligent immigrants, it still results in foreigners gaining key positions in the upper echelons of society, which always results in antagonism toward the stock people of the nation, because the foreigners don't share our values or prioritize our people.
Your musings on this issue are so wildly off of the reality of the situation that your idea can be ignored entirely. We're facing the systemic genocide of White people across the entire planet, and you're arguing about things which will never happen.
My people are being genocided intentionally, and you call it "sperging out". Find better words to use. That, or you're revealing your true feelings, that you revile White people, and think we don't have natural rights, like having our own homes and nations, the right to protect our borders, the right to associate with whom we choose, the right to control who enters our homes and nations, the right to collectivize, the right to espouse and enforce our views, the right to violently stop the people hurting us.
The U.S. was conquered, built, and maintained for White people, not the entire damned planet. One of the first acts the 1st Congress passed was limit immigration to White people of good standing. The Hart Celler act of 1965 changed U.S. immigration from White countries to non-white. So which is "intended" here, according to you? The laws currently on the books, laws which are corrupt and wanted by evil men, or the previous laws passed by our ancestors, laws based on logic and our natural rights?
Are you under the belief that we still have any room to compromise with the people trying to kill us? We're not voting our way out of this. The left and right are both in on the Kalergi plan. When you're right, you don't compromise. When someone is trying to kill you, you don't compromise.
My "musings" are far closer to something that could happen than yours of shutting off any and all immigration "until our countries are fixed and run by our own people." Realistically, both are relatively unlikely in the current situation though, unfortunately.
I'm calling it what it is. You're turning away people who are 99% on your side with your retardation. I'm every bit as white as you, and yet in a couple of comments back and forth, you took "it would be best if we could let in like 100 geniuses and leave it at that" and turned it into "you're revealing your true feelings, that you revile white people." There is no universe where that isnt sperging.
I understand it's a very important issue and things can get emotional, but holy shit come on.
No, you're not getting it. You're trying to offer a solution which doesn't actually fix the problem, a solution which would require various institutions to be uncorrupted, when they're not, operated by people that have our best interests at heart, when the antithesis is true. The government, the H1B program, all of immigration into the West, our leaders, the NGOs facilitating the mass immigration, open borders, DEI policies, affirmative action and diversity hiring quotas, they're all corrupt, and their entire purpose and function now is to replace and genocide White people in our own countries. Your "solution" is bullshit and will never be implemented by the people in power.
Your solution also hinges on the idea that we even need uber intelligent immigrants in our White nation. That proposal is so astoundingly naive to the nature of IQ and the history of White nations as to be laughable on every level. White people have never, ever needed uber intelligent immigrants in order for our nations to function. We've never needed non-whites to "do the jobs we don't want to do", when we've done those jobs for millennia, on our own, by ourselves. White people have made almost every single advancement, invention, and break through for the last several thousand years. We don't need uber intelligent immigrants to do anything for us. We're our own uber intelligent people. Unless, of course, you're arguing with immigration purely from White nations, which I'd be mostly okay with, if the numbers were kept in check to not disposess the native Whites like is currently being done.
What people? What retardation? Be specific.
Your solution, and every idea you've presented in this debate, has been in service to the plans of evil people who are actively genociding White people. Your solution is a compromise with evil people. No more compromises. If someone is trying to kill you, you don't compromise with them, you kill them before they can kill you. If someone is trying to rape your mother, sister, wife, or daughter, you don't say "well you can only molest them a little" to compromise with them. You stop the threat. If you're right, you don't compromise with fools or liars. Just because I can elucidate this fact and be specific in my arguments doesn't mean I'm "sperging". You only use that word because I vehemently disagree with you and your compromises with evil.
"If you get emotional at the genocide of your race, you're a bad person." That's what you're saying. You're arguing identically to all the other White people still plugged into the system, who have been brainwashed by the propaganda and still believe it, who view hate and anger as inherently wrong, who think we should be emotionless apathetic pacifistic inactive robots in the face of our entire people's genocide. The proper response to what's happening is a nigh endless rage. However, my justified rage is underwritten in my comments, not overtly spoken. You're only claiming I'm being emotional because I disagree with you, and are making comments longer than a 1 sentence quip, which doesn't prosper a debate on this issue.