Read a tweet today about why Gen Z men are not "manning up" and cold approaching women. It's obviously the fear of getting your life ruined, not the fear of rejection.
This is established fact for virtually anyone who's ever thought about the subject (besides NPCs).
But my thought is even if you somehow took away the risk of ruining your life, there are a lot of problems with expecting men to find relationships by walking into the buzzsaw of cold approaches over and over. First of all, it kind of hurts to get turned down based on your physical appearance, and the appearance of 80% of men is inadequate on its own. You can make up for that with banter and flirting. But is it realistic to expect every man, or even most men, to develop the level of game needed to pick up girls off the street?
Second, most attractive women you see on the street already have a boyfriend. Not a meme boyfriend, an actual dude. Now it is true that if you're Timothee Chalamet you can probably turn half of those women into cheating hoes, but why would you want to given that you're going for a serious relationship? In the end it's just very awkward for both parties to go through the script again and again. "Sorry, I have a boyfriend." [forced smile] "Oh, my bad sorry"
In the past women were somewhat more likely to take cold approaches as a compliment. Disclaimer: somewhat more likely. Today the infinite choice of online dating has more than filled women's thirst to be admired, so getting approached in public mostly makes them annoyed for the same reason that most people prefer to be emailed rather than called.
There is a way for guys who aren't male models to be attractive to women: get to know them in a mutual community so their appreciation of your positive features overcomes the "ick" and "he's not a kpop boy band member" factors that they initially notice. People can also figure out who's in a relationship and who's looking without embarrassing themselves. This form of courtship, coincidentally, has been attacked by each successive sexual revolution.
I'm generalizing in several places, but I doubt that most relationships are going to happen through cold approach in a healthy society, whether that's in person or on a Jewish dating app.
Is it a European-American thing? The top 10% best-looking guys aren't that great. With rare exceptions, they're not getting anything handed to them.
People don't understand statistics. 10% means that on average, of 10 guys, there is one 'Hawt Guy'. Yeah, no.
Besides dozens of automatic matches on Tinder? No idea what context you're talking about
I'm saying that the top 10% isn't great-looking.
Hell, you live in a country (I assume) where 2/3 is overweight or obese. By simply not being a lardass, you land yourself into the top 1/3. Take care of yourself, and you'll probably be in the top 15%. Have some muscle mass, and that's the top 5%.
I'm being very rough, but come on. You guys cannot seriously actually believe the stuff you're saying. It's the male equivalent of "I fail in life because RACISM".
I think you're neglecting to mention the importance of height and facial structure there. I've been called a "hot guy" myself, but it's still a bit demoralizing to realize that the person I'm trying to connect with is busy talking to a dozen other guys.
You're right - but as I said, I was being rough.
But it doesn't matter what your facial structure is when you're fat. It's going to look awful no matter what.
There is some truth to that. I take the time to be fit, I've had women crush on me. Problem is, the climate makes everything harder *to find a real relationship, and it really shouldn't be. Hence the apocalyptic birthrate.
People don't really understand numbers very well. It's like when they complain about the "1%", like some radiologist is somehow in on a plot to destroy the world.
Chad does exist, but it's probably closer to the top 5% or 2%.
I actually think the percentage is smaller. I've seen anything from top 1-20 percent cited, so I split the difference with 10. Better Bachelor showed stats that said 5, but that was over a year ago and I'm sure it's only gotten worse. The exact number isn't really the point though. The point is that a tiny percentage of men are having a hugely disproportionate amount of success in the SMP, and a lot of the less successful men have concluded that putting in more effort than the hawt guy is a chump move.
Well, if people on the internet say it.
So that means that out of every 20 people, there is one. Still seems like a whole lot. I wouldn't say that out of 20 guys I see, one is great looking.
What a poor excuse for being lazy because there is porn out there. The 'Hawt Guy' isn't going out unshaved (unless it's intentional), with dirty hair, bad glasses and dragging along 50 kg of fat.
How do you not get this?
The exact percentage doesn’t matter. It’s about the ratio. Too many women think they deserve the very highest status men. Even if that apex male demo is only 1%, then probably 10% of women think they legitimately deserve those men. This represents the collapse of assortive mating as the dominant dating paradigm.
I’m starting to realize that you’re just fucking dumb.
Every man I know thinks he deserves a supermodel.
I think you mean to say that they will only date men like that. Let's accept this for the sake of the argument. Now, that would be 10% of women who are remotely in the league of these men, right? If it's just morbidly obese women with necrotic tissue in their fatrolls, I don't think you would mind it that much.
Let's assume the top 1% of men are all occupied, taking out 10% of our top 10% of women. That would mean that 90% of the top 10% of women are single. Is that your experience, that nearly all drop-dead gorgeous women are single? Not mine, and it's not because they tell me that they have a boyfriend to get rid of me.
Start to realize? You're too modest. How can you 'start to realize' that now when you've been calling me stupid for a year or so?
You two have been going back and forward when you could both just walk outside and look at the first 100 guys you see and judge for yourself.
Exactly! That is what I propose he do.
You're gay how would you know.
If I were homosexual, wouldn't that make me perfectly suite to judge how attractive or unattractive men are?
Why would you think the predelictions of a deviant would be comparable to a real woman?
I mean just take dykes for example. The vast majority are women who would be rejected by anyone with functioning eyes.
Not predictions, observations. I'm sure even you have some idea of what women like, do you not?
I was in the top 10% (older now), and while there have been ego-boosting moments there have also been many rejections. I've had more success than most men, but to imagine a world where I got even fewer spontaneous compliments, flirts, smiles, hard eye contact, opportunities etc. would honestly be soul-crushing.
Attractive men get a fraction of the attention that average women receive. Average men are essentially invisible.
Why are you so retarded?
Tony is a brown woman. Take a guess.
Can people who are retarded normally give an explanation for why they are retarded?