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Liberals are too dumb to understand per capita crime rates : (twitter.com)
posted 5 months ago by SophiesBoyfriend 5 months ago by SophiesBoyfriend +106 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice -9 points 5 months ago +1 / -10

Homicide rate in the US is a bit lower than Europe if just a few of the black areas of Chicago, Baltimore, and a couple more are excluded - not even all black areas, just a handful.

I mean, go right ahead and subtract FIFTY SIX percent from your homicide rate, and see lower than how many European countries it is. I'm guessing zero, but you might land yourself on the west side of Albania and Belarus.

Don't get me wrong, we suck too! But I despise this special pleading from Americans. Don't you think we'd like to exclude the 80% of crimes and murders that are committed by Muslims and immigrants? Why do you get to exclude blacks, who have been there for centuries, why we have to include Muslims who just arrived on a boat and started a-raping?

It's pretty much that way for any metric, like schools or life expectancy or whatever. Exclude the blacks from the stats and America is freakin' amazing.

In 2020, white life expectancy in the US was 77.4 years, according to the CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/20220831.htm

Average life expectancy in the EU in 2020 was 80.4 years: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/6/67/Table01_Life_expectancy_at_birth_1980-2022_v1.png

Bulgaria, Slovakia, Montenegro, Serbia and North Macedonia had lower life expectancy.

Albania had an identical life expectancy to the US WHITE population.

Now, I know this is mostly because Americans are very, very fat and because of opium and all that, but c'mon. Don't piss on me and tell me that it's raining.

India is low on homicide for a brown country probably because of all the fennel making them into pussies.

Is it? Syria is at 2.07 (obviously 2010). Egypt is 1.3. Morocco is 1.7.

The 'brown countries' with high homicide rates are all on the wrong side of the Atlantic.

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– fauxgnaws 6 points 5 months ago +6 / -0

I mean, go right ahead and subtract FIFTY SIX percent from your homicide rate, ... But I despise this special pleading from Americans.

Blacks are a special case though. Try as you might, you just can't conceive of how so.

I see you are particularly triggered by the life expectancy claim.

It's way more complicated than just "our number big", it's calculated differently by each country and there's wars, natural disasters, disease, drugs, rural vs urban and all kinds of things that affect a country's life expectancy differently from others; you can hardly live in EU and have it take an hour to get to hospital for your heart attack.

If you have two people choosing the same lifestyle, one in EU and one in US, the one in US will live longer.

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– AntonioOfVenice -3 points 5 months ago +1 / -4

Blacks are a special case though. Try as you might, you just can't conceive of how so.

Muslims are about 10% of the population of France and commit a majority of the crimes. They do a better job than blacks in the US.

I see you are particularly triggered by the life expectancy claim.

Not at all. Japan and I believe China have a greater life expectancy than Europe. It's just that it's not true.

It's way more complicated than just "our number big", it's calculated differently by each country and there's wars, natural disasters, disease, drugs, rural vs urban and all kinds of things that affect a country's life expectancy differently from others; you can hardly live in EU and have it take an hour to get to hospital for your heart attack.

Absolutely right, at least relative to the US. I offered two explanations of my own as well. But the fact that we are does mean that our life expectancy is lower than that of white Americans, as you claimed. You seem to be conceding that and moving on to the 'offering reasons' stage.

If you have two people choosing the same lifestyle, one in EU and one in US, the one in US will live longer.

Based on? Greater wealth? I'm not sure that is true, but I'll concede that anyway.

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– fauxgnaws 2 points 5 months ago +2 / -0

Muslims are about 10% of the population of France and commit a majority of the crimes. They do a better job than blacks in the US.

Exactly what I'm talking about when I say "you just can't conceive of how so". They're not even in the same category.

Based on? Greater wealth? I'm not sure that is true, but I'll concede that anyway.

Ironically, because of the same problem that drags all our aggregates down: our doctors and hospitals have to deal with so much crazy shit you'd scarcely believe that the institutions and people end up being superior just by trial by fire, and capacity to deal with it.

It's the same reason why Americans have never really gotten soft like Europeans have, not as extremely anyway, because we've always had this burden keeping us from pretending that utopia and harmony are possible.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 5 months ago +1 / -0

Exactly what I'm talking about when I say "you just can't conceive of how so". They're not even in the same category.

If 50-60% of murders in the US are committed by 13%, and approximately the same percentage (and probably much higher, as they do not even officially track it) is committed by Muslims - how is that different?

Ironically, because of the same problem that drags all our aggregates down: our doctors and hospitals have to deal with so much crazy shit you'd scarcely believe that the institutions and people end up being superior just by trial by fire, and capacity to deal with it.

I like that argument. I will point out though that some places in Europe have to tell, let's say "teens", "do not assault the medical staff".

It's the same reason why Americans have never really gotten soft like Europeans have, not as extremely anyway, because we've always had this burden keeping us from pretending that utopia and harmony are possible.

Believe me when I tell you that there are very few people in Europe, outside ruling classes, who believe in 'utopia or harmony'. Pessimism about the present and the future is extreme, and probably a good deal greater than there is in the US.

I do not contest though that Europe is beset with softness, ennui, fatalism and decadence. I'm not sure why it's so much worse here. Perhaps because as much as I don't like Americans dedicating their lives to materialism, that is at least something to aim for - while the average European just wants a comfortable life with no disturbance (same for me!), so basically extreme decadence.

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