All I mean is they propose some system that doesn't actually have to work until after you've given them the keys to everything. When they're not actually governing, their philosophy means nothing. That's why the Azov doesn't bother Ukraine. "They want to fight Russian?" no1curr why. After Russians gone we can deal with them being national socialist.
It's worse because I think they believe that sending out Azov will kill enough of them to stop the movement in it's tracks. Instead they are gaining political legitimacy. It's going to blow up in their face.
To your original point, it's hard to nail them down still. Some will lie, some are honest. Hell, the Nazis themselves were revolutionaries that promised to revoke the constitution if put into power. They absolutely did that. They lied about other issues. But not all of them.
I mean sending them out works for killing the rest of Ukrainian men, but maybe these guys are tougher stuff. I think such political legitimacy that they may have has to do with their fighting. They supported the winners of the last civil war, so they got a place in the new structure. Ideologically, yes, Ukrainians would be better to reject Azov help. Practically, I don't know that they can.
All I mean is they propose some system that doesn't actually have to work until after you've given them the keys to everything. When they're not actually governing, their philosophy means nothing. That's why the Azov doesn't bother Ukraine. "They want to fight Russian?" no1curr why. After Russians gone we can deal with them being national socialist.
It's worse because I think they believe that sending out Azov will kill enough of them to stop the movement in it's tracks. Instead they are gaining political legitimacy. It's going to blow up in their face.
To your original point, it's hard to nail them down still. Some will lie, some are honest. Hell, the Nazis themselves were revolutionaries that promised to revoke the constitution if put into power. They absolutely did that. They lied about other issues. But not all of them.
I mean sending them out works for killing the rest of Ukrainian men, but maybe these guys are tougher stuff. I think such political legitimacy that they may have has to do with their fighting. They supported the winners of the last civil war, so they got a place in the new structure. Ideologically, yes, Ukrainians would be better to reject Azov help. Practically, I don't know that they can.