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Atrocity propaganda (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 1 year ago by btbw 1 year ago by btbw +81 / -0
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– horstshort 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

The official narrative is that Hitler was a genius but utterly retarded megalomaniac that wanted to conquer the entirety of Europe with a nation that wasn't even ready for a war with Poland and the Allies and Soviets only wanted to stop him.

Just like the Ukraine war is solely caused by Putins expansionists ambitions and the West only wants to save Ukraine.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The official narrative is that Hitler was a genius but utterly retarded megalomaniac that wanted to conquer the entirety of Europe with a nation that wasn't even ready for a war with Poland and the Allies and Soviets only wanted to stop him.

Fortunately for him, the Poles - and French - were even less ready for war than the Wehrmacht. But this narrative isn't that far off. At the very least, he wanted to expand into eastern Europe and the USSR, cleanse the population there by starvation or massacres, and settle Germans there.

He may not have the intention of going West, but Realpolitk takes balance of power into account for a reason: a Germany that has gobbled up even the western parts of the USSR would be unstoppable. Even the USSR itself, with basically the territory that Germany was aiming at, would have been unstoppable, despite a counterproductive economic system.

Just like the Ukraine war is solely caused by Putins expansionists ambitions and the West only wants to save Ukraine.

Putin isn't Hitler though. And he's aiming only at historic Russian lands.

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– horstshort 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Fortunately for him, the Poles - and French - were even less ready for war than the Wehrmacht.

Only in the sense that the Poles and French military and political leadership were utterly incompetent. The Poles weren't ready for an invasion and the French were too dumb to consider that the Germans wouldn't just yolo into the Maginot Line. The Wehrmacht was severely outgunned and outnumbered compared to the enemies it was facing.

At the very least, he wanted to expand into eastern Europe and the USSR, cleanse the population there by starvation or massacres, and settle Germans there.

That's the official narrative that you seem to think doesn't exist.

Putin isn't Hitler though. And he's aiming only at historic Russian lands.

He does? Funny, the media propaganda tells me that if Ukraine doesn't stop Putler he's gonna invade the rest of Europe. But I guess half of Europe are "historic Russian lands".

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The Poles weren't ready for an invasion and the French were too dumb to consider that the Germans wouldn't just yolo into the Maginot Line.

Obviously they knew that. They also did not expect the Von Manstein plan, which ironically came to be because the Germans' first set of plans were discovered. They would have lost with their initial, less risky plan.

The Wehrmacht was severely outgunned and outnumbered compared to the enemies it was facing.

Only compared to the French. Poland was no match. And the Red Army was only a match in terms of numbers and materiel, which were quickly captured and destroyed due to superior leadership and morale.

That's the official narrative that you seem to think doesn't exist.

No... that is General Plan Ost and Hitler's stated intention. Apparently, that's the "official narrative".

He does? Funny, the media propaganda tells me that if Ukraine doesn't stop Putler he's gonna invade the rest of Europe. But I guess half of Europe are "historic Russian lands".

Obviously, the media lies. Compare that to Hitler, and he had gone beyond historic German lands even before Poland, with the occupation of Czechoslovakia.

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– horstshort 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Poland was no match.

Germany didn't fight a war against just Poland. Besides without the Soviet invasion the Poland campaign could've easily ended in disaster as Germany didn't have enough reserves for a pro-longed war.

No... that is General Plan Ost and Hitler's stated intention. Apparently, that's the "official narrative".

Then you should be able to produce a document proving just that. Besides Generalplan Ost which was never made a policy and was thought up by a singular individual named Hans Ehlich who had no real influence.

Compare that to Hitler, and he had gone beyond historic German lands even before Poland, with the occupation of Czechoslovakia.

Germany was invited. Czechoslovakia was armed to the teeth but not a single shot was fired. Czechoslovakia was never annexed. Its people were never conscripted.

You can pretend it was an invasion of conquest but it wasn't. Czechoslovakia was a failed, artificial nation from the very beginning. That's why it doesn't exist anymore. The only purpose in its creation was to be a thorn in Germanys side.

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