A friend of mine got broken up with by a girl because of he owned two MAGA hats. Muh Abortion!!!
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This is only going to become more common. Men are leaving the left in droves while women are entrenched for the left. Polarization has gone straight past 11 and is headed for 13 at a minimum. We're going to see civilization collapse at this rate.
I'm more optimistic. I think once the left's back is broken we'll have a huge amount of women proclaiming they were never serious or weren't political all along, etc.
While the harpies, well the surviving ones, can just howl into the wind.
This. Once men start seeing leftist women as the cancer they are more universally, they'll act as if they've always hated niggers at the drop of a hat.
This. How many women will be like "i never want kids. Kids are a deal breaker." Then they meet a guy they really, really like who says he wants kids and suddenly "OH. I want kids too."
I’d say this happens today already, but then you are left with a shitty mom who eventually divorce rapes the guy once she’s popped out enough anchors.
It also completely ignores the dynamic in which women are overwhelmingly influenced by their peers and media messaging. They revert to whatever the social norm around them is. That norm can and will be shaped by forces that are hostile to a man and his familial interests.
I totally agree, but I do worry about the harpies. That's a thing we don't have an answer for because we've never seen this many resentful, childless, cat ladies. They are not going to get any less crazy because they are effectively the result of not getting married and having kids. We are going to have a fucking horde of bitter, angry, resentful, childless cat-ladies, who are all politically radical, and will remain so for decades.
The unlikable childless cat-ladies in their 40's now will live on for another 40 years, and probably spend most of that time screaming about Trump's America. They are never going to be married or have kids, so the only outcome is that they get an elderly marriage to (let's face it) low status men whom they will resent because they assume they are better than them, or they will become more vengeful and vicious, trying to corrupt the youth even harder because if they can't have kids, nobody can.
I can't figure out from a societal level what to do with this horde of Left-over women. And forget any stupid fedposting arguments because I don't think there's a single human civilization in history that would tolerate such a thing.
Who cares bro, theyre just women. Stop giving them special privleges and ignore them, they'll either shape up or just go be childless cat ladies alone in their apartments.
It's a genuine tragedy, and part of why it was so important that we not allow them such freedoms. Society utterly failed women by allowing them the freedom to destroy themselves so completely.
I think their bitterness will also reverberate through the generations that come after them. They are politically active and will continue to spread their beliefs because they have literally nothing else going for them in this life. That can potentially spiral the next generation into a similar pattern because of how susceptible women are to social pressures.
No, it's not that freedom destroyed them, over and over again women didn't ask for any of this.
Feminists did, claiming to be on behalf of women. Hell, a majority of women didn't even support the right for women to vote.
Just like with mass migration, the problem is that our institutions are hell bent on destroying things. If you destroyed the incentive structure and did literally nothing else, it would be as if you had a wild, Sulla level, reversal of society.
When you're moving, you might need to hit the breaks to slow down. But when you're driving as fast as possible, taking your foot off the break will slow you down pretty dramatically.
I don't think the bitterness will transfer to additional generations unless it's taught to them. I think it'll be a horror story for girls. "Look what happened to all those millennials when the Feminists got to them. Imagine being so crazy you shout 'I wish I were aborted!' in public...."
Feminism is the disease, nature will heal.
And at this point, I'll still have to give them a pass. Because if that sort of thing becomes fashionable again, they'll slip into it like a well-worn sweater.
That's your decision. For my part I don't have to make that choice, my wife is to the right of most of the people on this website, so I got lucky.
Trump is doing better with women than at any other time in the last nine years - even among white women. Don't lose hope. we're gaining.
This is true. The obsession with middle-class suburban white women is projection of where the Left is pining their hopes (and who has the most influence in their intelligentsia). In reality, Trump is exploiting 'mom energy' with issues relating to girl's safety, indoctrination in schools, parental rights, and the like.
He's making shocking gains with black women. Basically moving from 5% to 10% or more. He was predicted to have 0% back in 2020.
My concern is not a political one.
Your a fool if you think young Women will stay left once the attractive Men leave.
Women want power and money. You're a fool if you think they will abandon the central bank money stream for dick.
They will continue to marry the state, same as they have been for years now.
Imagine your entire civilization dying because you allowed women to go crazy and kill their children.
Hard disagree. Men just need to not compromise on their values and women will come along. We basically have to live out Shakespeare's "Taming Of The Shrew".
First, because women basically do give up their agency in values to their husbands. We literally see it, and it's one of the reasons why married women are much more to the right than unmarried women are.
Second, because so long as men don't compromise their values (which they shouldn't be for a woman anyway), attractive women will start espousing the values of attractive men; and then less attractive, single, women will follow the lead of more attractive women.
It's a completely solvable problem that has to be resolved by men.
Why must you ruin me with hope for the future?
Stop being a doomer and it won't be so painful. Realism isn't inherently optimistic nor pessimistic.