80% of modern men would be useless, but 98% of modern women would be too.
Frankly, the role of women in a survival environment without rule of law or complex infrastructure is something every single post-apocalypse video game gets wrong. Even before the rise of wokism, I can't think of a single game that ever got it accurately. In real life, women would go back to exactly the style of living they had in say, the 1600s. Exclusively limited to living at home with their parents, or having a husband. The only tasks they would be allowed to do would be safe tasks within the town or family house. No women would be allowed in combat situations of any kind. None. They would go back to cooking, cleaning, raising babies, grinding flour, repairing clothes, etc. And they would beg to be allowed to go back to that. Modern women only have the arrogant uppity chip on their shoulder they do now because they live in a world with very few real dangers and with a massive advanced infrastructure with millions of moving parts all maintained by men keeping them safe, warm, dry, clothed, fed, healthy, entertained, etc. Without that, their natural fear instincts take over and they will be climbing over each other to attach themselves to the strongest man they can find while they stay inside a strong sheltered place waiting for what comes.
Any video game that tried to do it realistically you'd end up with seeing absolutely zero women outside of towns or cities, and the ones you do see in towns would be married, living at home with their father, or working at a whorehouse (the other thing a ton of women will revert to when they realize they have absolutely nothing else to offer the men who will either keep them alive or kill them). There will be no female soldiers, female guards, female convoy escorts, female mayors, female adventurers, etc. The men of their family or town wouldn't let them because they're far too valuable to procreation, and the women wouldn't want to anyways because they'd be far too scared and when it comes down to it they know that they can't actually do anything useful other than raise babies, make food, and spread their legs.
of course they wouldn't exist. sexual identity and gender identity is a first world problem. it only exists where the bulk of other life problems have been eradicated.
in a post-apocalypse, everything angles towards either anarchist enclaves or totalitarian regimes. they wouldn't be permitted in a totalitarian regime, and in anarchist regimes, practically anything is punishable by death... useless eaters starve to death and sexual predators eventually get offed. trannies and gays would only exist as a fringe portion of prostitution.
Even before the rise of wokism, I can't think of a single game that ever got it accurately.
Let me direct you to the Mad Max 2015 game where the only women wandering around outside were dying of starvation or were either being actively raped or eaten by the bad guys (though if you approach the enemies engaging in such activity, the deeds were already done and you basically just encountered the aftermath in those cases, but if you used the binoculars at a distance you could basically tell what was going on before you approached).
The only prominent three females in the game included a concubine and her daughter, a drug-addled whore, and a crippled old woman who managed logistics at one of the few strongholds.
Otherwise, you are 100% correct. No game I can think of set in a post-apoc setting other than Mad Max got the role of a woman right. In that game, it was absolutely as brutal as it sounds and that was part of its charm -- it was unabashedly honest that the role of a woman in such a scenario would either be getting bent over (one way or another), helping maintain logistics within the confines of a walled domain protected by men, or being eaten.
Ironically, you see this occasionally happen in multiplayer survival games. I've seen on at least a few occasions where women end up taking up a role where they'd rather sit around the base and manage or organize things while the men go out and do all of the resource gathering, looting, and fighting.
It's actually kind of amusing now that I think of it.
I never met them through the game, so much as they were chicks I'd known from elsewhere (one from an mmo, one a friend of a friend, etc) who ended up wanting to join in.
Otherwise, I suppose it wouldn't be totally outlandish to come across random women in the right kind of survival game servers. Minecraft seems to have been a popular introductory survival game for a fair number of women over the years.
80% of modern men would be useless, but 98% of modern women would be too.
Frankly, the role of women in a survival environment without rule of law or complex infrastructure is something every single post-apocalypse video game gets wrong. Even before the rise of wokism, I can't think of a single game that ever got it accurately. In real life, women would go back to exactly the style of living they had in say, the 1600s. Exclusively limited to living at home with their parents, or having a husband. The only tasks they would be allowed to do would be safe tasks within the town or family house. No women would be allowed in combat situations of any kind. None. They would go back to cooking, cleaning, raising babies, grinding flour, repairing clothes, etc. And they would beg to be allowed to go back to that. Modern women only have the arrogant uppity chip on their shoulder they do now because they live in a world with very few real dangers and with a massive advanced infrastructure with millions of moving parts all maintained by men keeping them safe, warm, dry, clothed, fed, healthy, entertained, etc. Without that, their natural fear instincts take over and they will be climbing over each other to attach themselves to the strongest man they can find while they stay inside a strong sheltered place waiting for what comes.
Any video game that tried to do it realistically you'd end up with seeing absolutely zero women outside of towns or cities, and the ones you do see in towns would be married, living at home with their father, or working at a whorehouse (the other thing a ton of women will revert to when they realize they have absolutely nothing else to offer the men who will either keep them alive or kill them). There will be no female soldiers, female guards, female convoy escorts, female mayors, female adventurers, etc. The men of their family or town wouldn't let them because they're far too valuable to procreation, and the women wouldn't want to anyways because they'd be far too scared and when it comes down to it they know that they can't actually do anything useful other than raise babies, make food, and spread their legs.
this. HBO's last of us rendition acted like women would have rights and gays would even exist. same deal with the new planet of the apes.
nope.
in a post-apocalypse, merely being in any collective would mean very few rights at all.
''But Netflix taught me that 8 months pregnant wimminz are kickass badass fighters.''
I got banned from something one time for speculating that post-apocalypse, trannies wouldn't exist.
of course they wouldn't exist. sexual identity and gender identity is a first world problem. it only exists where the bulk of other life problems have been eradicated.
in a post-apocalypse, everything angles towards either anarchist enclaves or totalitarian regimes. they wouldn't be permitted in a totalitarian regime, and in anarchist regimes, practically anything is punishable by death... useless eaters starve to death and sexual predators eventually get offed. trannies and gays would only exist as a fringe portion of prostitution.
Let me direct you to the Mad Max 2015 game where the only women wandering around outside were dying of starvation or were either being actively raped or eaten by the bad guys (though if you approach the enemies engaging in such activity, the deeds were already done and you basically just encountered the aftermath in those cases, but if you used the binoculars at a distance you could basically tell what was going on before you approached).
The only prominent three females in the game included a concubine and her daughter, a drug-addled whore, and a crippled old woman who managed logistics at one of the few strongholds.
Otherwise, you are 100% correct. No game I can think of set in a post-apoc setting other than Mad Max got the role of a woman right. In that game, it was absolutely as brutal as it sounds and that was part of its charm -- it was unabashedly honest that the role of a woman in such a scenario would either be getting bent over (one way or another), helping maintain logistics within the confines of a walled domain protected by men, or being eaten.
I picked Mad Max up for $5 a few years back.
I'll have to try it out.
I paid full price for it when it was released (those days live now only in my memories) and was very happy with it. It’s a steal at $5.
Ironically, you see this occasionally happen in multiplayer survival games. I've seen on at least a few occasions where women end up taking up a role where they'd rather sit around the base and manage or organize things while the men go out and do all of the resource gathering, looting, and fighting.
It's actually kind of amusing now that I think of it.
The fact that you found a multiplayer survival game with women playing it is surprising to me.
I never met them through the game, so much as they were chicks I'd known from elsewhere (one from an mmo, one a friend of a friend, etc) who ended up wanting to join in.
Otherwise, I suppose it wouldn't be totally outlandish to come across random women in the right kind of survival game servers. Minecraft seems to have been a popular introductory survival game for a fair number of women over the years.
The only one I've kind of seen is videos of people playing Rust, and it seemed like all boys -- not even men.