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Pro-life activist says she won't vote Trump because he wants abortion to be a states rights issue (archive.is)
posted 1 year ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent 1 year ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent +58 / -0
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– Benevolentdictator 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Kind of surprised at how much vitriol in the Twitter replies and here on KiA2 over some pro-lifers not liking Trump & Vance being wishy-washy to journoscum hypothetical gotcha questions about "abortion bans".

Lauren Chen has similar criticism of Trump’s answers and similarly got thrashed in her own replies.

And TBH, I'm not even that passionate about abortion either way.

I guess it shows that similar to the Dems, a lot of Trump supporters really only care about winning over caring about any fundamental beliefs & principles.

It also shows how scared we still are about Democrat lies & smears.

This version of Trump certainly isn't the bombastic younger version of 2016 who would say anything fearlessly.

And the duopoly of "do you want Kamala to win?" quashing all internal criticism on the right is very jingoistic and off-putting.

I thought voting was all fake and ghey anyway.

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– SendTomBoys 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Most of us prefer not to die in a hail of nuclear fire and bullets so we'd rather Trump win by any means necessary. Lie to these dumb bitches faces if you have to

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– Benevolentdictator 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I think the issue for critics of Trump like Nick Fuentes & Lauren Chen is that you have to believe that he & Vance are simply politicking for votes "campaigning from the center, governing from the right" instead of being weak RINOs like so many others when they finally win.

And I do share some of their concerns. 2024 Trump isn't as based as 2016 Trump.

I watched Trump's Theo Von podcast interview last week. I thought he came off as looking hoarse, old and enfeebled. Similar to the Elon conversation, Trump said barely anything of substance. They rambled for an hour about alcoholism, Dana White, Kid Rock & Trump's older brother Fred.

Theo Von had interviewed Bernie Sanders the week before. I only made it through the first 10 minutes, but Sanders was more impressive. He made a compelling case for universal healthcare even if it was based on lies. The comments were also full to the brim of simps putting the champagne socialist Bernie on a pedestal as a "Man of the People".

I want a Trump that has lines in the sand on red meat issues. Who isn't worried about MSM gotchas or speaking unpopular truths.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I watched Trump's Theo Von podcast interview last week. I thought he came off as looking hoarse, old and enfeebled. Similar to the Elon conversation, Trump said barely anything of substance. They rambled for an hour about alcoholism, Dana White, Kid Rock & Trump's older brother Fred.

Theo Von has interviewed Bernie Sanders the week before. I only made it through the first 10 minutes, but Sanders was more impressive. He made a compelling case for universal healthcare even if it was based on lies. The comments were also full to the brim of simps putting the champagne socialist Bernie on a pedestal as a "Man of the People".

Trump has never given substantive policy answers on anything. Why would he start now?

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– Benevolentdictator 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Well, maybe the TDS types have a point then that we are simply a cult of personality.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The official Trump campaign twitter posts "import the third world; become the third world" memes.

They hand out printed "Mass Deportation Now!" signs at Trump rallies and at the RNC.

I'm sure a Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, or Nikki Haley campaign would do those things too.

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– Benevolentdictator 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

The Mass Deportation memes are pure cope.

If Trump & Vance actually believed any of that shit, they'd outline a detailed plan and stop blabbering about how much they love LEGAL immigration.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Is it that surprising that people don't like people sitting on their hands when freedom of speech, political persecution, right to own weapons, mass immigration, packing the Court are all on the table?

Over a federal abortion ban? Which is the wrong approach and is impossible to pass?

When Trump is the ONLY president that has ever accomplished anything for pro life? And that would be toppling Roe v. Wade which is a monumental achievement I didn't expect to ever see?

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– Benevolentdictator 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

The problem is that EVERY election is always framed as some existential threat where one has to betray their principles THIS time to keep evil at bay.

I actually don't give a shit about nationwide abortion bans.

But I want a version of Trump who doesn't kowtow to journoscum hypothetical gotchas because he thinks it's the answer that polls better rather than being the right thing to do or what his base wants.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

It's pretty clear that anti-Trump forces are an existential threat, no? I mean, transgenders are attempting to change the fabric of reality. And they're coming for your kids?

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– Benevolentdictator 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Those are feminine type appeals to emotion.

Our enemies are evil incarnate. To that we can all agree.

Really this simply boils down to longhouse type stuff.

People to the right of Trump on some issues are being shouted down simply because it's become a binary "You are either with us or against us" in pursuit of victory no matter what Trump’s campaign does and without evidence that softening his message actually achieves the ultimate goal.

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– LeRiverDanube 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

You inflexible fucks are the reason why you're constant failures

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– Benevolentdictator 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I think it's more of an example that the American right isn't very good at placating internal dissent when push comes to shove and instead quells it through mob rule just like the left.

Though right wingers presently like wrapping themselves in the identity of being free expressionists and critical thinkers.

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– LeRiverDanube 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Theirs a difference between being harrassed and cancelled for dissenting, and being called out for your flawed reasoning.

Would you rather be called a retard or have a brick thrown at you?

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