I put "conversations" in scare quotes because I'm obviously not referring to actual conversations. I don't know what word I should use to describe what I'm talking about, but I'm using this one since I've often seen it used in this context. What I actually mean is some dumb controversy that by rights no one should give a fuck about becomes a hot topic in the media/on social media, and then some retard journalist announces that there's a "conversation" happening around the topic or that the topic has "entered the national conversation". Sometimes it's obviously astroturfed (anything having to do with masculinity is a prime example of this) but it often legitimately goes viral thanks to the general population's room temperature IQ. Just to give an idea of what I'm talking about, here are some particularly vapid examples:
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The leggings "conversation" that popped up several times over the last decade in various forms.
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A few years back some social media addicted losers questioned if a gift some celebrity bought her granddaughter was age appropriate, and retards in the media decided to report on the "controversy" since "it's between her and the parents so we should leave it alone" was too sane of a stance.
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There was apparently a retarded crew vs ankle socks debate that I didn't know or care to know about until my local radio station's idiot host announced that Gen Z "resolved it" and that he was disappointed that his side "lost". For a dude in his 30's or 40s he takes this crap awfully seriously.
I know I should just file this under "stupid normie shit", but don't people have anything more interesting to focus on? Why does anyone give a fuck about any of this? I at least understand the obsession with political stuff since it actually affects people's lives (or it will if the commies get their way). But leggings? Socks? I was going to ask why our culture is so fucking vapid, but I know it's because we let women and their stupid drama poison it. The whole thing needs to be burned to the ground.
"Conversation" in leftist just means "we lecture you about what the correct view is, and you obediently listen while sobbing with remorse for ever thinking otherwise and kissing our feet".
And parents should not be buying their underage daughters clothing items that exist purely to enhance sexual appeal.
That battle is well and truly lost though this side of the collapse. There is simply no way to properly raise children unless you live out in the middle of nowhere on a farm and homeschool from birth until adulthood and only keep them constrained to a peer group from families that do the same thing. You are a parent that lives in any kind of suburban or Urban area, even if you live in a rural area but still send them to public schools, if you allow them to have a smartphone at all, the battle is lost. Two parents are simply incapable of withstanding the absolute deluge of degenerate filth being poured into a child's head from every direction via education, media, the internet, Snapchat and tiktok and Instagram and all the rest. The only way to win is to never let your children interact with that stuff. Which is basically impossible for 99% of families. The tradcucks over on PDW won't admit it, but no matter how well they think they raised their children, their daughters in particular, Daddy's little girl is still a massive whore from about 13 onward. The ones from conservative parents simply know how to hide it better.
I think it is possible to educate your children on opsec, but there can be no half measures, that's the problem with parents today they're not willing to potentially traumatise the children on how bad the internet can get especially if they're a girl. That would straighten them out instantly, what children don't realise is how many people are out to get them these days and it's not an exaggeration.
I would maybe tame it down a bit depending on how young they are, but if they're teenagers full autistic presentation complete with real world examples of shit that's happened to the underage.
I remember a leftist holding a "conversation" over lunch at work once. In the middle of the lecture, they outed themselves as not even abiding by one of their own talking points, followed by shrugging it off like it was funny.
Almost all of lunch conversation at work is uninteresting fluff anyway...though it's nice to have someone at the table with a sense of humor who knows it's fluff and takes it into silly places that people on soapboxes don't know how to deal with.
I think the concern I have about that is at some point you have to let the kid go, so if they've been hidden off from everything for their entire life, once they discover the whore life, are they any less likely to go to it? You'd basically have to be Amish to have any chance where you have a community and you strive to keep them in it forever.
That used to be the "repressed Catholic schoolgirl are the biggest sluts" trope long before clown world took over.
Though I don't that really carried over to the Amish for whatever reason.
How much of that was real and how much of that was pushed by pornographers? 30 years from now, people are going to think we were all fucking our step-siblings.
What? Why would a certain demographic of pornographers have a specific hatred for Christians?
The term you're looking for is "struggle session."
Came here to post this. The actual name for what OP is talking about is pretty well documented
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session
Technology allows the regime to have "struggle sessions" with the masses every single day, and will focus down to an individual wherever required (to inspire fear) - It's really simple when you see it for what it is.
That describes the more political stuff for sure, but a lot of what I'm talking about is just inane bullshit that does more to degrade the people participating in it than any member of the outgroup.
you forgot the tidepods challenge that the 'journalists' actually turned into a problem, lmao.
The meme was already dying, and then a local tv news outfit ran with the story, turning it into a national 'crisis,' and then some kid who would have never even seen the meme actually tried to eat one...
Yes, also that's the thing, they don't have anything to do so they huddle around each other and gaggle like a bunch of geese rather than do anything with themselves and they're entertained by it. The average normie work day especially if they don't have kids to concern themselves with revolves around waking up, going to their boring office job at 9:00am, then they'll clock out at 5:00pm and then they had back home to watch Netflix.
Maybe if they're feeling adventurous on a weekend they'll go to a nightclub with their friends and go on a binge drinking session. Some of the absolute slags out there will do it every fucking weekend which is why so many western women look like they've aged 20 years by the time they hit their 30's because they were embracing the office worker party lifestyle in their 20's. You go to the UK and you'll see it in major cities, they're usually women and university students getting drunk and stumbling out of night clubs barely wearing anything.
That's it, that's all they got, in the UK if they're a middle/upper class leftist they might go on holiday once a year and then brag about it on Instagram and take as many photographs as possible. They'll also go to Glastonbury when it's on which is very much a place for middle class leftists to gather in mass numbers away from the peasants so they can sniff their own farts.
TLDR: Normies are incredibly boring so they have to embrace astroturfed political causes in order to feel like their lives have some kind of meaning and they're not the insufferable worker drones that they are
I just received a company-wide email from our DEIB committee chair reminding everybody that conversations in the company #social-* Slack channels should try to steer away from controversial political topics.
This after they (the DEIB committee) send out political garbage like pride/black history month propaganda, Juneteenth celebrations, or women's day nonsense.
Of course, when they do it they're just being good people. You are the one introducing political strife into their beautiful, inclusive conversations.
That shit ended friendships for me and I feel the pain of anybody having to deal with that, it wasn't even a work thing, just people being obnoxious as fuck.
Me as well.
Not so much as "ended" but definitely no longer pursued. Not interested in being around that nonsense.
Same here. Steam/game friends I've had since ~2009 suddenly updating their status to "die mad righty" out of nowhere, and seemingly directed at no one in particular. I dropped them like a hot potato without so much as a "smell ya later." I do not understand what possesses someone to do that, and interacting with anyone who does is the last thing I want to deal with.
I should be clear it wasn't specifically an argument about BLM that did it with the people I knew but the environment definitely changed and I'm glad it's not just me. It kept happening with a couple of people I had known for quite awhile and it's like they just woke up one morning and completely switched off their sense of humour and it was fucking weird. What's worse is other people noticed it as well and they just stopped hanging out in the group, it was like some fucking psychosis and I did find it very jarring.
This is why though you always make friends with the group rather than just one person, it pays dividends because I've mentioned this before but they will tell you if they think you're alright what's going on and it turned out that many of them had abandoned the person as well. It's so damn sad though because they were genuine fun to hang around when they had a sense of humour.
I think the covid lockdowns + BLM definitely did something to regular peoples' brains because these were mostly I would call normie gamers I was hanging out with.
Forever children at their finest in most respects to think this stuff warrants debate. I wear whatever the hell socks I want, there is no debate or conversation. Don't think I'm trendy enough? Great, I appreciate the compliment. Adults do not subscribe to the concept that something needs whatever this definition of a conversation is.
It applies to the leggings and age-appropriateness thing too. From what little I've managed to notice from young girls, nothing given to them is age appropriate, because their actions are nothing more than those of budding whores. Even the ones that seem to be on the better end would have been sluts 20 years ago. The only "conversation" should be their parents telling them that no daughter of theirs will dress or act like a whore.
The only people that want those conversion-sations are those with the ability to control them.
"We need to talk about MAP!" censors all discussion except one side "Oh, would you look at that, child rape is a human right after all."
"we need to start a conversation..."
"at least it started a conversation, doesn't matter that it was untrue, it started a necessary conversation..."
No he doesn't. He plays a part that pretends to care because driving engagement is just as much a thing for radio as it is for clickbait. "Keep listening and we'll have people to call in to argue about if the dress is blue/black or white/gold!" It's the broadcast equivalent of, "let me know in the comments."
I thought of that possibility as well, but I kinda doubted he would fake being such a pathetic loser. It wasn't even one of those debates where people call in. He just brought it up as "oh by the way" thing when he was going over some tabloid news between songs.
Let's be fair here. Sportsball discussion is equally vapid and dominant in our culture, but you don't see anyone shitting on men for it. Women aren't the only guilty party here.
No argument about sportsball discussion being tedious as fuck, but it seems more contained than this crap. Maybe I'm just exposed to the wrong media, but the feminine side of the problem seems to be way more indiscriminate in where it spews its shit.