“Gamergate caused the Trump assassination attempt”
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Honest to god I thought that was a right-wing meme. I know they said it was "safe and secure" but I didn't know they literally said that.
Nope, they literally said it.
In fact, I AG Barr said it.
"Most X ever" is a classic lying tell.
If I said I was a good shot with a bow, or even that I was in my school archery club and won several state competitions, you would have no reason to doubt me. But if I told you I was THE BEST archer in HISTORY, you immediately know I am lying.
If the 2020 election was safe and secure, fine. But the MOST SECURE? They stole it. Period.
A Deep State apparatchik in the Department of Homeland Security commandeered DHS's communication in order to get this meme out and have it be repeated endlessly as coming from "Trump's own government".
I mean, even if you don't believe there was massive fraud (disclaimer: I don't, though I do think they rigged it legally), obviously an election with massive mail-in ballots is not going to be more secure than one without, let alone "the most secure in history". So batshit crazy, but idiots eat this up.
Ok euro, you can stop making a fool of yourself now. There were hours and hours of video and testimonies and hundreds of pages proving it. Five states simultaneously had to stop counting for made up emergencies, throw out the poll watchers and resume hours later.
Even just looking at the fucking graph. Even looking at the super obvious shit, like the military absentee ballots somehow breaking extremely hard for biden (which is impossible) proves there was fuckery afoot.
Antonio is a prolific retard. If you keep him talking long enough, he’ll eventually cop to almost every bad take there is.
He was a vaxx pusher too, until he eventually read the writing on the wall.
Nah. He's a euro who needs to pay more attention or shut up before dipping into american politics sometimes, and he definitely says retarded things, but he's mostly alright and at least intellectually honest. I'd take him over the conpro fuckers and forum sliders we've been getting flooded by.
None of which you have reviewed or analyzed. You just believe what you wanted to believe.
I know there were shenanigans going on in Georgia, I don't know about "five states".
It is suspicious. But on the other hand, if Biden-heavy counties come in later, it's not exactly a surprise that his vote total would shoot up suddenly.
This one I haven't heard before. Can you explain?
Exactly as described. The military is the primary source of absentee - not mail in, different classification - ballots. The military is HEAVILY right wing, 80-20 at worst. The absentee ballots did not even remotely resemble what they should have in GA.
Also, the graph didn't depict biden heavy votes coming in later - it depicted the massive jump during the sudden stop in, yes, FIVE STATES SIMULTANEOUSLY. The one with the extreme spike.
And I did watch hours of witness testimonies of the fuckery from various states. And read the Navarro report detailing the fraud. Just look at the bellwether counties compared to the "results". Look at draws to speeches and rallies. It is patently obvious that a shambling zombie did not beat out the vote record of the far more popular previous democrat president (Obama) let alone an extremely popular populist candidate (Trump).
You, a euro, are telling one of the most constitutionally conservative US nationalists on this board that I didn't look at the evidence - because you didn't, so you think nobody did. I spent weeks after the election going to rallies and observing the things going on, discussing them with other people invested in history and studying elections. I watched the steal happen live as those five states all had mysterious (and later proven fake) emergencies.
It was fraud. Blatant. Not the first time in US history, either - you can find many examples of corrupt elections. This was by far the most obvious, though.
"Legal rigging" is an interesting take.
For a fact, most of the states (but not all) had laws against changing election processes too close to the election, and against sending out mail in ballots without signature verification. In most cases these laws were ignored "because Covid" and went unchallenged. (Texas challenged this and won every single case against it)
So the question is, if someone breaks the law but isn't punished, is that ""legal""? Especially if someone else was punished for breaking the same law in another jurisdiction. What does "the law" even mean in this context?
There's also the question if a clearly unjust law that does not serve the public interest is a valid law? In my state, what happened in 2020 was fully legal, but hardly moral, just, or right.
I'm not sure this is true, but if no one challenges a violation of the law, that is malpractice. The strangest thing is that Republican legislatures, like the one in Pennsylvania, changed the law in order to make things better for Democrats.
Ah, a modern take on Bishop Berkeley's old question. I say no in a metaphysical sense. But I also say that if you can stop it but don't, as you claim is what happened, then it's not exactly illegal either.
Here's my view: I don't find most of the claims persuasive. Massive fraud is BS, or at least, I have never seen persuasive evidence. There are a lot of small things that they did, and a lot of large things like they did (like extend mail-in balloting), that are dubious at best. The most smoking gun is the signature rejection rate, which miraculously declined from about 4% to 0.5%, just enough to get the result they wanted.
You're absolutely right about that. But after Corona, all of us should have learned that legality is not necessarily morality, and often the farthest thing from it.