His original big message he posted right after this blew up had him using the word "minor" in it. Which he then edited out within a few minutes, likely on re-read.
Which means he either confirms it was a minor and he knew it (possibly after it all blew up, so not really guilty), so he edited it to look better, or the unlikely version he worked himself into their shoot and subconsciously he come to believe their version of events.
At this point, I'd wager he knows it was one. The question I think still remains on the "did he know before or after shit got wild?" Which if he didn't know until later, he is still a fucking retard because you always card girls online.
Why would he feel the need to card a girl on a service that supposedly carded her on entrance? Sure, he should have, but you don't assume girls at bars that check IDs are underage right?
I do in fact always keep in mind that girls at bars could be underaged. Because children lie, and teens can be pretty good at it. Heck spend a few days on Tinder or Bumble and see how many girls say "My actual age is X, I can't change it" on their profile, which is because they were on the app in high school looking for oldermen. I don't know the legality of how "on the hook" a website or business is when kids say "I'm over 18" or present a fake ID, but that's not my point.
For both your own safety, you always card a girl who looks under 25-30 in real life and online entirely before you get to anything concrete or overtly sexual. For the same reason you don't trust "Gun Free Zone" signs to mean you are safe from getting shot. Always look out for yourself, never trust "The System's Safeguards" to work. I feel like people are rushing to absolve him of any blame and are becoming unreasonable in doing so.
Not to say he has the lion's share of blame for if she was a minor, because as you said she should have been carded by someone else, but he is still a fool from a personal safety and moral standpoint for not doing so anyway.
If they got into the bar on a fake ID, it's probably going to pass your cursory drunken inspection. But it's a weak metaphor, I guess, since Twitch has no actual controls beyond "do you super duper promise you're allowed to buy our pornography we're peddling to you, errr, sorry, I mean hot tub ASMR streamers?"
Yeah bars have guys whose job is to not only ask for the ID but have a discerning eye on the person physically handing it to them to verify. Something an internet process doesn't have available short of a "get on webcam to prove its you" which we can all agree is both invasive and likely to lead to bad places.
His original big message he posted right after this blew up had him using the word "minor" in it. Which he then edited out within a few minutes, likely on re-read.
Which means he either confirms it was a minor and he knew it (possibly after it all blew up, so not really guilty), so he edited it to look better, or the unlikely version he worked himself into their shoot and subconsciously he come to believe their version of events.
At this point, I'd wager he knows it was one. The question I think still remains on the "did he know before or after shit got wild?" Which if he didn't know until later, he is still a fucking retard because you always card girls online.
Why would he feel the need to card a girl on a service that supposedly carded her on entrance? Sure, he should have, but you don't assume girls at bars that check IDs are underage right?
I do in fact always keep in mind that girls at bars could be underaged. Because children lie, and teens can be pretty good at it. Heck spend a few days on Tinder or Bumble and see how many girls say "My actual age is X, I can't change it" on their profile, which is because they were on the app in high school looking for oldermen. I don't know the legality of how "on the hook" a website or business is when kids say "I'm over 18" or present a fake ID, but that's not my point.
For both your own safety, you always card a girl who looks under 25-30 in real life and online entirely before you get to anything concrete or overtly sexual. For the same reason you don't trust "Gun Free Zone" signs to mean you are safe from getting shot. Always look out for yourself, never trust "The System's Safeguards" to work. I feel like people are rushing to absolve him of any blame and are becoming unreasonable in doing so.
Not to say he has the lion's share of blame for if she was a minor, because as you said she should have been carded by someone else, but he is still a fool from a personal safety and moral standpoint for not doing so anyway.
If they got into the bar on a fake ID, it's probably going to pass your cursory drunken inspection. But it's a weak metaphor, I guess, since Twitch has no actual controls beyond "do you super duper promise you're allowed to buy our pornography we're peddling to you, errr, sorry, I mean hot tub ASMR streamers?"
Yeah bars have guys whose job is to not only ask for the ID but have a discerning eye on the person physically handing it to them to verify. Something an internet process doesn't have available short of a "get on webcam to prove its you" which we can all agree is both invasive and likely to lead to bad places.