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posted 2 years ago by Lethn 2 years ago by Lethn +10 / -0
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– Assassin47 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

if this doesn't slap the weeb out of people

Not sure what this has to do with weebery, people who are obsessed with Japanese culture aren't planning on becoming salarymans.

One thing I noticed on the video...

he plans to spend his entire salaryman career at the same company

That is actually something we used to have in America and lost. You remain loyal to the company and you've got a job for life. They're gradually losing it in Japan too what with the rise of Haken (temp workers) but nice to hear it's still possible in some places.

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– weezkitty 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Why is loyalty to a company good?

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– Assassin47 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

It's good because you get loyalty in return. A reasonably comfortable life, enough money to raise a family, some vacation time, and a guaranteed pension. If there's no loyalty in return it's wasted.

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– LauriThorne 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

No, you should hop from job to job right before you're eligible for the bonus program at your current job and just constantly have the large cost of moving.

It's the best way!

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– Daucus9 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

"Bonus program, what's that?" asks the American.

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– ernsithe 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

This. And to add to it, all those mean less movement, more stability, and better outcomes for families. Maybe less of a deal if you live somewhere where jobs are plentiful, but location hopping with no stability fucks up kids.

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– weezkitty 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

That's putting way too much faith in corporations having good will and morality.

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– Bouldabassed 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

On its own it isn't good. But I asked my Japanese boss one time why people in Japan mostly stick with one company. He said it's pretty much just that the company one is with is almost invariably always the one that will pay them the most money. Also job security. Once you've been there a few years you'd almost have to try to get let go.

Kind of obvious shit but it was interesting hearing it right from the horse's mouth. In America, if you are a good worker you can generally find someone willing to pay you enough to job hop every couple years if you wanted. Japan not so much, but I wonder if that will become more prevalent as population decline continues and companies are more desperate for people.

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– yoisi 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

I'd argue that the weebs that want to move to Japan are not real weebs. Real weebs would leave Japan alone and not move there, because real weebs would want to keep Japan as Japanese and would know that immigrants are bad .

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– Assassin47 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I don't know about Paleo but from experience what a gaijin will experience working white-collar or service industry in Japan is totally different than what the normal Japanese person goes through. There's a lot of youtube channels that give negative experiences, but mostly it's fine. I knew a guy who made tons of money just teaching english thru one of the famous teaching programs but admittedly that's not typical.

The best move for a weeb at the moment, with the current exchange rate, would be to get fully remote job in America/Europe and try to live in Japan with one of the non-employment visas. Even better if you can get a house because the interest rate is like >1% though I'm not sure if it's actually possible get a loan without a job there.

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– Oranguchan 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I'd be surprised if you could get a home loan without a job. You can barely sign any contracts without proving your income first.

Homes in the cities are cheaper than in the West but still quite expensive and much smaller than Western houses. Houses in the countryside are the cheap ones, but you really really need to be involved with the local community, you have to volunteer for all sorts of things or everyone in the town is going to make your life hell.

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– Oranguchan 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

This is true, salaries are significantly lower, and you're probabky never going to get a pay raise. Remote work is where its at.

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– 83671R18 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I agree with you, but damn man - you really should have worded this better.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

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