Paying upfront is always a bad call. That is in fact how you get scammed. Girls will tell you upfront is all they accept and it's how the game is but that's only true if you're at a brothel where the girl is on a leash and has to perform for the establishment. If she's independent you never pay upfront unless you're willing to take a risk.
Think about it from the girls perspective. You're bigger than her and can overpower her so if she performs and you're the kind of guy who would then refuse to pay her, what is she going to do about it? She can't overpower you and you're confrontation enough to deny her payment after she performed meaning you likely would fight her if she persisted. If you pay her first then she performs and you're the same kind of person who would not pay her and stand your ground on it then you're also the kind of person who would demand your money back and threaten her or prevent her from leaving to get your money back. What is she going to do about it? You can overpower her and take it either way. That means if you're the kind of person to scam her, it doesn't matter whether you pay upfront or not. Also, if you "didn't have the money" and plan on scamming her that way, you could just withdraw the funds and not giving it to her so proving you have the funds does nothing for her either. No matter how you look at it, you paying first has virtually 0 barring on her outcome. Girls only insist on getting paid first if the thought of scamming you is running through their mind because if you're a nice guy they can scam, you'll not stop her if she walks out with your money but only after you give it to her. If you haven't given it to her, she'd have to overpower you first.
So protip for the guys out there never ever give the woman the money first unless it's at a brothel and don't let the girl convince you that's the "norm" because as you can see from this video also, it's not. Girls will negotiate.
But never talk to girls about "getting scammed" as your reasoning because it just makes you look weak. If you're buying girls you need to be the one calling the shots not a simp letting her call the shots. You say I don't pay first, that's how I do things, if you don't like it you can leave. And that's that. Treat them like a replaceable whore because that's what they are. It's kind of like buying a car. You need to be prepared to walk like you don't give a shit. If she knows you're hung up on her then she has all the leverage to scam you. If the girl truly thinks she's too good for your money and she should be the one calling the shots she's going to be a terrible performer anyway. She's a man hating feminist working as a whore.
Usually the western ones are feminists but the non-Western ones aren't always as feminist. Unless you go by the Imp1 definition where all women are feminists, period. But I've noticed a huge difference between western whores and eastern whores. Western whores treat you like you're the pathetic person resorting to buying whores and they have this air of contempt/disgust for you despite the fact they're the ones resorting to whoring. It's weird. Like the girls resent the men for buying whores because they shouldn't have to whore and should just get everything they want without doing anything but they're forced to whore because men are pigs so it's all men's fault and men are pathetic for buying whores even though they're one whoring but they aren't pathetic because they're not a whore, they're temporarily embarrassed Queen. That seems to be the western stick. Eastern whores a lot more humble overall except the Russians (non Western Russians but Russian chicks who can't get into the west). These Russian whores are more gangster than western black pimps.
Paying upfront is always a bad call. That is in fact how you get scammed. Girls will tell you upfront is all they accept and it's how the game is but that's only true if you're at a brothel where the girl is on a leash and has to perform for the establishment. If she's independent you never pay upfront unless you're willing to take a risk.
Think about it from the girls perspective. You're bigger than her and can overpower her so if she performs and you're the kind of guy who would then refuse to pay her, what is she going to do about it? She can't overpower you and you're confrontation enough to deny her payment after she performed meaning you likely would fight her if she persisted. If you pay her first then she performs and you're the same kind of person who would not pay her and stand your ground on it then you're also the kind of person who would demand your money back and threaten her or prevent her from leaving to get your money back. What is she going to do about it? You can overpower her and take it either way. That means if you're the kind of person to scam her, it doesn't matter whether you pay upfront or not. Also, if you "didn't have the money" and plan on scamming her that way, you could just withdraw the funds and not giving it to her so proving you have the funds does nothing for her either. No matter how you look at it, you paying first has virtually 0 barring on her outcome. Girls only insist on getting paid first if the thought of scamming you is running through their mind because if you're a nice guy they can scam, you'll not stop her if she walks out with your money but only after you give it to her. If you haven't given it to her, she'd have to overpower you first.
So protip for the guys out there never ever give the woman the money first unless it's at a brothel and don't let the girl convince you that's the "norm" because as you can see from this video also, it's not. Girls will negotiate.
But never talk to girls about "getting scammed" as your reasoning because it just makes you look weak. If you're buying girls you need to be the one calling the shots not a simp letting her call the shots. You say I don't pay first, that's how I do things, if you don't like it you can leave. And that's that. Treat them like a replaceable whore because that's what they are. It's kind of like buying a car. You need to be prepared to walk like you don't give a shit. If she knows you're hung up on her then she has all the leverage to scam you. If the girl truly thinks she's too good for your money and she should be the one calling the shots she's going to be a terrible performer anyway. She's a man hating feminist working as a whore.
Are there any whores who aren't man hating feminists?
Usually the western ones are feminists but the non-Western ones aren't always as feminist. Unless you go by the Imp1 definition where all women are feminists, period. But I've noticed a huge difference between western whores and eastern whores. Western whores treat you like you're the pathetic person resorting to buying whores and they have this air of contempt/disgust for you despite the fact they're the ones resorting to whoring. It's weird. Like the girls resent the men for buying whores because they shouldn't have to whore and should just get everything they want without doing anything but they're forced to whore because men are pigs so it's all men's fault and men are pathetic for buying whores even though they're one whoring but they aren't pathetic because they're not a whore, they're temporarily embarrassed Queen. That seems to be the western stick. Eastern whores a lot more humble overall except the Russians (non Western Russians but Russian chicks who can't get into the west). These Russian whores are more gangster than western black pimps.