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summary:
- you can't take risks
- you can't trade your comfort for resources toward a greater goal
- women have absolute legal power
- women have no obligations or duties in how they behave
- most of the masculinity exhibited by married men is performative and trivial
- every mechanism to control a wife's behavior is seen as "abuse"
Even knowing all of this, and generally agreeing with it, I still think the costs and sacrifices are worth it as long as you go in for the purposes of having children. Unless you are an incel genius like Isaac Newton or Nikolai Tesla then producing those children and doing your best to impart your values on to them, in spite of everything arrayed against you, is your "greater purpose".
This. People keep saying "but there are good ones out there", but if they exist they aren't the ones that are unmarried after the age of 25.
There was one young woman who was in her 30s who fit the description you named to a tee. Grew up Christian, had loving parents, worked hard, went to school, but ended up falling in with the wrong crowd, got raped, and then went on a hoe phase throughout the rest of her 20s. By 30 she was finally over it and was then looking to settle down. She was still deeply ashamed of her past, though, and it completely changed a lot about her behaviour.
The ones who have not gone through the hoe phase and are still unmarried by the 30s/40s are usually just mentally/psychologically unstable.
The caveat for men is that you either marry the supposed wholesome woman before she turns 25 or go passport bro and stay in whatever country where you marry her. If you're in your 30s you might be able to still find someone decent in their late 20s if you fish around deeply religious towns -- preferably small towns away from the big cities.
If you're in your 40s and you're attempting to find someone close to your age, any woman who looks decent is already ran through, divorced (multiple times), or a single mother, full-stop. Any woman who is in her 30s and isn't ran-through is usually unsightly or obese, or suffering from some kind of crippling disorder.
If you're in your 50s... I hate to say it, but just hang it up. While you can still make babies, your options are nil when it comes to anyone around your age. Women in their 40s absolutely are ran-through one way or another, or are simply unattractive if they happen to be the unicorn that isn't the town wench. Any woman in her 40s also won't be providing you with any kids. You can attempt to date younger but seriously, you will either have an aneurysm or a heart-attack trying to deal with a young woman because there's just such a gulf in the age differences when it comes to existential mind-sets. If you're dating someone in her 20s/30s at 50+, it's just to knock her up and create a lineage, but not because there is anything to gain relationship wise out of it; you're just basically parenting her at that point.
You are basically parenting women at any age. They don't mature past teenagers until they hit menopause.
You're overlooking the actual solution here. There's no reason to endlessly go over the foibles and wrongdoings of Christmas Cakes. They're already dead. They fucked up, they're used up, nobody wants them, and for the vast majority of them they should hurry up and choke down a bottle of pills and a box of wine already.
Pursue younger women.
If all you want are kids, this is true... but for people who want actual substance in their lives, younger women are insufferable.
For the most part women of any age are insufferable.
No arguments here.
I would say that you're being conservative and optimistic in the ages for men. I would suggest that things become difficult when you hit your 30's (there is no "fine wine" moment for men unless you want to become a sugar daddy) and impossible by your 40's. Particularly for long term single men. We know that middle aged divorced men have better outcomes in dating compared to their long term single peers and we also know that if a man is unmarried at 40, he's likely to remain unmarried (as well as not father a child or even find a partner).