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Is the new Shogun show any good?
posted 2 years ago by BlightBane 2 years ago by BlightBane +22 / -0

Looks like something that might actually be worthwhile to watch.

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– BlightBane [S] 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Thanks for the details, but is it any good? Any woke shit so far?

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– Shitheel5000 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

No woke shit so far. One scene even had a guy complaining and instead of anyone listening, his head fell off instead.

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– horstshort 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

So far just very little light woke stuff. One girl power scene, where the main actress starts fighting with a naginata (spear) which isn't necessarily unrealistic but they portrayed it a bit too girlpowerly to be entirely believable. Also several small "hurrdurrhurr europeans don't bath and are idiots when it comes to medicine" scenes.

So nothing major. Just a few jabs. Overall I quite like it even though the amount and quality of the CGI is at times a bit disappointing.

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– TriangleGang 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

One girl power scene, where the main actress starts fighting with a naginata (spear) which isn't necessarily unrealistic but they portrayed it a bit too girlpowerly to be entirely believable.

This is my only real beef so far as well. I think Mariko did take up a weapon at some point in the book in an act of desperation, but they portrayed her as a skilled fighter in the show and I believe she actually killed one or two people in the scene you're talking about.

They also had her lecture Blackthorne on how women were samurai too. This concept is present in the book, but in the sense of samurai being the noble class versus women being warriors. I felt they were twisting the concept to fit modern ideals about "equality".

Other than that, I think it's pretty good. I also enjoyed the original despite its limitations of being an early 1980s made for TV mini-series.

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– horstshort 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

They also had her lecture Blackthorne on how women were samurai too.

Which episode? Must've missed that.

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– TriangleGang 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

You know, I just scanned the first three episodes again looking for it and couldn't find it. I was driving myself crazy trying to figure out where I got this, because I distinctly remember rolling my eyes at it.

Turns out it was not a lecture from Mariko in the show, but from a marketing campaign post I saw around the time the first episode aired: https://www.nytimes.com/paidpost/fx-networks/5-stories-of-the-samurai-class.html?smid=url-share#/daughters-of-samurai

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– deleted 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0
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– catipillar 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

It was also a major theme in the book.

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– horstshort 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Scratch that then and it's just the fight scene so far.

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