It makes me mad how much better it is than anything released within the past five years. Even the worst parts of it, Electra talking, are better than anything recent just because she is smoking hot.
Karen is an actually good female character with flaws and growth. Catholicism is depicted positively. No faggots in your face, no shoehorned lectures about race.
If you haven't seen it yet I highly recommend it, but pirate because despite making this show netflix doesn't deserve any money.
I was disappointed in 3 when I first watched it on release just because it was scaled back compared to city-threatening ancient ninja cult from s2. But on re-watch I see it is actually a really good political thriller that is blended with a street-level super-hero story.
It wasn't orange-man-bad at all even if trailers might have tried to edit to look like it.
I also skipped season 3 but enjoyed the first two a good deal. I'm probably going to give it a watch.
I also wonder if your feelings on season 3 being better the second time around, have to do with how bad much of the superhero stuff has been lately. I've noticed just personally that I tend to think higher of things that I thought were average at the time, just due to how monumentally bad everything coming out now is.
When you are starving everything tastes better. But also the re-watch let me appreciate the brutal fight scenes and how well-written Kingpin's plan to get "back in the game" was. Also Karen's backstory was properly tragic.
PlutoTV has lots of old movies and series from the 80s and 90s when in the movies men were men, women were women and the LGTB was only featured if it was necessary for the story telling without shoving gay propaganda down your throat.
It is like the world ended in 2016. So little that came out after is worth anything.
I love Pluto, crackle, and Tubi. So much older content
It's one of the rare times where I agree with the general public on liking a particular show. The Wilson Fisk actor is incredible and I also think it does a surprisingly realistic take on how modern corruption in society actually works to the degree I'm surprised that the creators themselves didn't get Epsteined for it. Too many shows and movies do the government corruption storyline and it's often silly propaganda with 'military/government officials always the good guys, they beat up private contractors' type deal. Or it's one person up top being 'evil' and the good guys are just following orders then realise towards the end.
The 'good guys' mostly being too scared to make a move for fear of being exposed or simply killed off themselves and other people making calculated decisions in the moment to switch sides for the sake of self-preservation or so their families don't get hurt too is one of the more realistic aspects of the storytelling.
It's been a few years since I watched it, but I distinctly remember the fight scenes were pretty darn good, too. There's long one take cuts (no jump cut edits to hide bad acting, fighting, and choreography) in season 1 and 3 which are amazing (the hallway fight and prison riot), and shows how relentless Daredevil is despite getting actually tired from fighting multiple guys for several minutes. You pretty much never see that in action movies or shows, people getting tired from fighting. Also, Kingpin was an amazing villain.
I recently BTed all the Netflix Marvel shows (because fuck Disney+) and it was shocking how much better they are than anything else Disney is putting out. Sure Iron Fist was kinda weak, and Luke Cage's story kinda wandered aimlessly a little. But they were still damn solid for what they were. And the first season of Punisher is still one of my favorite seasons of any TV show period.
Punisher had way to much time spent on the cop chick, who always talked in an incredibly boring monotone voice and stopped the main plot to focus on a boring side plot so they could shove Karen into two episodes. The rot of wokeness was setting in and fully formed in the second season of iron fist.
Was thinking of watching that show. Could you skip the female cop scenes and not miss anything out of the main plot?
You’d need to watch the scenes to follow a lot. The parts with the punisher actually killing people are great but there’s way to much crap in between. Give it a watch and see if you like it though.
yeah yeah, but the best character of this series is still the punisher.
Unfortunately they will make him a woke hunter of corrupt cops in the new daredevil series.
Yeah, it was pretty good. I forget if I kept up with it till the end, but I enjoyed what I saw. Maybe I will go and rewatch at some point. I've also been thinking about rewatching the Punisher show, and just rewatched the movies recently.
I thought it was good and it made me start buying older daredevil comics. Growing up I mainly read Spider-Man when it came to marvel since my budget was limited so I would only see Daredevil when he crossed paths with Spidey. Now I want to get the Miller run
There’s an entire episode wasted on Karen’s back story in season 3
I loved the show, corny acting from some and all, until Electra showed up and basically ruined the flow.
I watched all series from the "The Defenders universe" and I find all of them quite good. Jessica Jones Season 1 and Daredevil was the best, Iron Fist was pretty cringe, Luke Cage series was mid, but I can't remember any of them being woke, beside few gay side characters.
(Dare)Devil's advocate: we know money talks. I'm not saying that one show will make the difference, but would it be worth it to compile a list of the most un-/anti-woke shows on Netflix, subscribe to watch just those (to pump up the viewership numbers) and then cancel?
Just throwing the idea out there as food for thought.
Nothing is worth giving Netflix money, but finding them on your friendly neighborhood tracker is worth it for some shows.
Yeah it's the communism model. Your subscription won't go to reward shows you watch. It'll go to prop up the shows nobody is watching but pushes THE MESSAGE.