I think I've actually been successful with a couple people talking them off student debt. It's just so fucking stupid. The whole "college experience" sold and pushed on everyone is a pile of shit. Want a degree? Fine. I have one. I worked the entire way through and paid as I went at low-end accredited community and state school. It sucked. It was a pain in the ass. I had to fight some professors at times even, because they really don't like people that are abnormal. When I got that first post-college job with the about 50% pay increase, I felt like a rich man because I actually had a fresh start and didn't owe anyone anything.