The Vladimir Putin Interview | Tucker Carlson
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To be fair: Ukraine isn't really doing themselves any favor with how some of the people are. I know a couple Hungarians who are also not the biggest fans of Ukraine specifically because how they treat their Hungarian minority who've lived there for many generations(attempt to poison water supply, general unrest and attacks). Just one angle to look at.
There aren't 'actual nazis' in Ukraine though. Israel approves of them, like come on how obvious do you want it?
They're people LARPing as nazis. Nazis haven't been around for about 80 years.
Why wouldn't they approve of them? Do you think all the fuss about the not sees is anything other than performative outrage?
Yeah this conversation is over, lmao.
AKA "Work for us against the soviets or we'll put you on trial at Nuremberg".
They really are actual Nazis. Israel is just willing to look the other way for their own potential advantage, possibly in securing energy supplies from a nearby country, and one who's government is mostly just the US security state. Doubly so, if they think they can have significant political influence. They probably think they can manage it.
They're dead fucking wrong.
If you're not sure, listen to the Ukranian Nazis talk. Even they know the irony of a jewish state sponsoring them; but they have explicitly stated this is their best chance to basically run the government and build a National Socialist state. And, they're right. They have more legitimacy and popularity in Ukraine than at any time.
Don't forget, Hitler sold weapons and food to Stalin to secure his border, even while ranting about Judeo-Bolshevism, and how big of a threat the Soviet Union was. They even allied. Stalin genuinely didn't believe that Hitler would betray him. This isn't the first time NatSocs have played this game.
You mean when disproportionately Jewish Bolsheviks starved millions of white Christians to death?
Yeah, Ukraine was so mad about it that they ended up with a Jewish government of their own, fighting a pointless war against white Christians.
That is such a difficult subject for Americans. I talked about Ostis to someone here, and they had no idea there were Germans in places like Poland and the Ukraine. They know there are German villages in the US, but have a hard time believing it can be like that all over.
Germans out of Denmark!
Leave the Danes alone!
It's not difficult for me. If Putin, or whoever, wanted to show me evidence that there are Neo-Nazi types - and not just a couple, but huge amounts - in the Ukraine, and that they are causing problems for ethnic Russians, I could believe that.
That's a far crying from saying that the problem is so bad that you need to wage a massive two year war killing hundreds of thousands over Nazis? What sort of power do these Nazis have there? What are they doing to Russia/Russians?
Russia’s “massive two year war” isn’t against Ukraine. Without untold billions in cash and weapons, Ukraine would have folded in three months. Russia is at war with NATO. Ukraine are simply providing the meat for the grinder. And it’s no skin off the Ukrainian government’s back; they’re skimming billions, and they aren’t even Ukrainian.
Besides shelling the Russian speakers in Luhansk and Donetsz for the last ten years?
They've been bombing and mortaring and politically suppressing and linguistically suppressing the eastern russian speaking provinces (and the small hungarian enclave in the west aint all too happy with their treatment either) for a long time.
Azov had been at war with them long before Russia officially came in in 2022
If you ignore the fake new official borders drawn up on maps by the west, like in Africa, and think more along actual nation lines, then yeah I do see why some of these fights start, and they had been at war with Russians before 2022. People don't like to be forced together, and when you do it, one oppresses the other. The swiss are 3 different nations who joined together voluntarily. The Ukraine is 3 who have been forced together, and they hate each other. Let them split.
Threat to Russia less so maybe depending on definition, but threat to Russians? Absolutely.
I could believe that. I just don't see how the Nazis in Ukraine are so powerful, and such a threat to Russia/Russians that he needed to wage a 2 year war to stop them.
Lots of other grievances he aired, I am somewhat sympathetic to. The US/West should have done more to help Russia after the collapse. More should have been done to welcome them into the fold. We did the same for Japan and Germany, and they didn't just fight a cold war against us.
The Nazis aren’t a threat to Russia. They’re a threat to the many Russians who live in Ukraine. Putin is protecting his people.
I wouldn't know, I just think it isn't a good look to claim to be so free and open and have people openly be actual nazis(not the twitter kind everyone's a nazi). The look is what is the issue and what gives Russia at least in my book an easy claim.
Ask a turk and a greek about how they think about the other...it's hilarious.
Why are you spelling it Turkiye? I'm well aware that Erdogan has officially changed the name or what not, but we don't called Germany Deutschland, we don't call France Francaise, nor Greece Ellinika, etc..