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Boeing 737 Max 9s grounded after panel break (archive.ph)
posted 1 year ago by redman012 1 year ago by redman012 +31 / -0
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– MassivePecorino 27 points 1 year ago +27 / -0

Up to the launch of the Dreamliner, the phrase was "if it ain't Boeing, I ain't going." Now that has become "if it's Boeing, it ain't going.". This is three decades of McDonnell Douglas' proto-DEI infecting Boeing, with the bean counters clapping like trained seals.

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– when_we_win_remember 9 points 1 year ago +10 / -1

I believe the aircraft are pretty good, in general. Maybe not this one. I've been watching disaster videos, and the constant is not Airbus or Boeing -- it's crew error. When I would "not go" or "go and hold your breath" is on a 3rd world airline. Consistently, third world maintenance is a factor in these crashes, independent of crew error.

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– thepalagoon 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

13 hour drive from Manila or 1 hour "hold your breath" flight to Bicol-Legazpi?

I lean towards the drive, but that's enough of a time save to make the flight unavoidable. And the Philippines might be a small step above your Sub-Saharan Africa/Rural India or Indonesia where these crashes happen regularly, too.

As a rule of thumb, I tend to trust any airline that can fly to either EU or USA -- it means they have to maintain the standards and practices of the FAA/Equiv. EU Body. Even in third world countries, you should be alright.

It's when you fly on your Spice Air, or your Lion Air (or any of a myriad of small airlines in Africa) where you shit your pants.

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

As a rule of thumb, I tend to trust any airline that can fly to either EU or USA

That has been mine, though I have become very skeptical after the EU banned Russian airlines on 'safety grounds' right after a certain incident in February 2022.

Either they were really unsafe, and the EU was tolerating them for political reasons before, or they were really safe, and the EU banned them for political reasons. Both do not speak very well of their safety regime.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-adds-21-russian-airlines-those-banned-eu-2022-04-11/

Now, in all likelihood they were completely safe and the EU just banned them for political reasons (which is less bad than the alternative), but the fact that such decisions are made on political grounds is reason enough not to trust the system. That said, I don't worry even with low cost carriers like Easyjet, Vueling and Pegasus. Ryanair I avoid because they use the 737 Max and because they do not employ their pilots.

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– GloboHomoErectus 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

If the airline isn't based in a western European country or does its maintenance somewhere else I am simply not fucking flying. The horror stories from my father flying in Asia confirms this.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

The 737 Max appears to have some issues which make 'crew error' significantly more likely.

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– CatoTheElder 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Don't forget Starliner hasn't delivered a crew to the ISS yet. Boeing will be lucky to even get enough launches at this point to fulfil the original contract.

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– elleand202 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I find it amazing that they're going to put people onboard the next Starliner mission.

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– MassivePecorino 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Don't remind me of that boondoggle. They'll be lucky if they ever get to the right orbit.

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