If you think Trump is the only viable candidate in the GOP primary then you clearly don't prioritize results and policy, you just want the show and entertainment that Trump provides.
I disagree with your assessment of the field and I think you are engaging in copium to still expect Trump to accomplish anything after his record of poor personnel selection.
We will get the GOP nominee we deserve.
If the GOP electorate still prefers Trump after he has shown that he has learned nothing from his prior mistakes then we deserve the ensuing negative consequences of that poor choice.
If you think Trump is the only viable candidate in the GOP primary then you clearly don't prioritize results and policy, you just want the show and entertainment that Trump provides.
Nah, those are two completely separate things. Trump just happens to be the most showy, and also the most viable. Doesn't mean they're related, and that's pretty dang disingenuous. He's polling at like 50%-60%+.
Also, accusing me of not caring about results or policy, when everything I've been talking about is his effect on the party? Kinda silly. Yeah, Trump's hilarious. But that's not why I support him.
I disagree with your assessment of the field and I think you are engaging in copium to still expect Trump to accomplish anything after his record of poor personnel selection.
I expect him to accomplish more, or at the extreme low end at least accomplish less bad stuff than any other semi-viable candidate. Again, Vivek is okay in theory, if you take him at face value (which you should never do with a politician anyway), but he's also the least viable of the lot, sadly. Haley or DeSantis would both pull things in bad directions, at least in my own personal opinion. I don't hate on people who disagree, but I certainly have my own reasons beyond simple 'lol orange man funny.' I take you in good faith, you could at least do the same.
We will get the GOP nominee we deserve.
Depends on how it's handled. We might get the GOP nominee that is selected for us...which I suppose we'd deserve, if we put up with it. There's a lot of variables.
Polls are used to influence public opinion not to measure it. I don't give a lick of spit to what any polls say.
Democrats clearly released polls showing Trump doing well in both the primaries and the general election in order to get the candidate they want to run against. They did this in the 2022 primaries by boosting terrible candidates like Doug Mastriano and John Gibbs with ads saying they are too MAGA and too extreme then our primary electorate picked these candidates and then they lost in the general election.
Democrats would love to run against Trump because Biden's best chances of winning rely on Trump being his opponent.
Democrats indicted Trump multiple times and removed him of the ballot in a few states to boost his status in the GOP primaries and a lot of our GOP electorate sadly jumped like monkeys to the Dem's tunes.
Trump as the nominee has shown that he has not learned from his prior mistakes and he is the least electable candidate. Too many people in the country have a burning disdain for Trump that no other politician evokes.
If Trump was high risk and high reward. I would still be supporting him today. I am not supporting him because he is high risk and low reward. There are better options than Trump in terms of policy and electability.
You are ignoring the growing support for Trump. Demographics that rejected him last time are getting on board. He will win over the monolithic minority bloc the Ds have relied on for so many years.
His opponents are incumbents everywhere, single yuppie women, and collegiate asshats, and I predict they will not muster the numbers to beat him,
I predict a Nixon or Reagan-like landslide if he makes it to the election without being murdered or imprisoned.
Polls are used to influence public opinion not to measure it.
Yeah, but it works. Vivek, as much as I like what he has to say, is not viable. Heck, I'd love to be proven wrong. Despite my distrust of him, I'd take him over DeSantis, and definitely over Haley. DeSantis seems to legitimately be losing viability versus Haley, which is an absolute travesty, for the record. I'm no DeSantis fanboy, far from it, but I'd do almost anything to keep it from being Haley vs Biden. But the current trend isn't going my way. Aside from Trump still killing it, of course. Have I mentioned, Trump 2024, MAGA?!
Democrats clearly released polls showing Trump doing well in both the primaries and the general election in order to get the candidate they want to run against.
Yeah, agreed. Worked out well for them in 2016, right? And we've solved a fair few of the, uh...election irregularities we had last time. Not as many as I would like, but we closed quite a few of the doors that led to Biden, the most popular candidate ever, getting elected. Trump is already looking so much better than 2020, which he should have won. Heck, by many metrics he looks better than '16.
They did this in the 2022...
RINOs killed 2022, because they'd rather have Dems than Trump. Blake Masters and Tshibaka, much? Man, they did Masters fucking dirty, and also propped up Murkowski to an insane degree. It was fucking disgusting. The Republican establishment all but openly said they'd rather support a Democrat than anyone even vaguely related to Orange Man.
Democrats would love to run against Trump...
They should probably stop trying to strike him from the ballot, then!
because Biden's best chances of winning rely on Trump being his opponent.
Eh...
I've said before, I'd take the chance of Trump "losing" versus Biden, versus Haley winning against him, any day of the week.
removed him of the ballot in a few states to boost his status in the GOP
Uh. That's giving them way too much credit, in my opinion. They tried to stop you from voting for Trump, because they want you to vote for Trump!
If you think Trump is the only viable candidate in the GOP primary then you clearly don't prioritize results and policy, you just want the show and entertainment that Trump provides.
I disagree with your assessment of the field and I think you are engaging in copium to still expect Trump to accomplish anything after his record of poor personnel selection.
We will get the GOP nominee we deserve.
If the GOP electorate still prefers Trump after he has shown that he has learned nothing from his prior mistakes then we deserve the ensuing negative consequences of that poor choice.
Very simple.
Nah, those are two completely separate things. Trump just happens to be the most showy, and also the most viable. Doesn't mean they're related, and that's pretty dang disingenuous. He's polling at like 50%-60%+.
Also, accusing me of not caring about results or policy, when everything I've been talking about is his effect on the party? Kinda silly. Yeah, Trump's hilarious. But that's not why I support him.
I expect him to accomplish more, or at the extreme low end at least accomplish less bad stuff than any other semi-viable candidate. Again, Vivek is okay in theory, if you take him at face value (which you should never do with a politician anyway), but he's also the least viable of the lot, sadly. Haley or DeSantis would both pull things in bad directions, at least in my own personal opinion. I don't hate on people who disagree, but I certainly have my own reasons beyond simple 'lol orange man funny.' I take you in good faith, you could at least do the same.
Depends on how it's handled. We might get the GOP nominee that is selected for us...which I suppose we'd deserve, if we put up with it. There's a lot of variables.
They clearly do, by a massive margin.
Polls are used to influence public opinion not to measure it. I don't give a lick of spit to what any polls say.
Democrats clearly released polls showing Trump doing well in both the primaries and the general election in order to get the candidate they want to run against. They did this in the 2022 primaries by boosting terrible candidates like Doug Mastriano and John Gibbs with ads saying they are too MAGA and too extreme then our primary electorate picked these candidates and then they lost in the general election.
Democrats would love to run against Trump because Biden's best chances of winning rely on Trump being his opponent.
Democrats indicted Trump multiple times and removed him of the ballot in a few states to boost his status in the GOP primaries and a lot of our GOP electorate sadly jumped like monkeys to the Dem's tunes.
Trump as the nominee has shown that he has not learned from his prior mistakes and he is the least electable candidate. Too many people in the country have a burning disdain for Trump that no other politician evokes.
If Trump was high risk and high reward. I would still be supporting him today. I am not supporting him because he is high risk and low reward. There are better options than Trump in terms of policy and electability.
You are ignoring the growing support for Trump. Demographics that rejected him last time are getting on board. He will win over the monolithic minority bloc the Ds have relied on for so many years.
His opponents are incumbents everywhere, single yuppie women, and collegiate asshats, and I predict they will not muster the numbers to beat him,
I predict a Nixon or Reagan-like landslide if he makes it to the election without being murdered or imprisoned.
There is zero percent chance of a Nixon or Reagan-like Trump landslide in 2024.
Trump will be convicted in at least one of his cases so he will be extremely lucky if he manages to win 270 electoral votes.
Get back to me on election night in 2024 and we will see whose prediction was more realistic.
I already know if he loses in 2024, people like you are gonna to yell massive fraud.
Yeah, but it works. Vivek, as much as I like what he has to say, is not viable. Heck, I'd love to be proven wrong. Despite my distrust of him, I'd take him over DeSantis, and definitely over Haley. DeSantis seems to legitimately be losing viability versus Haley, which is an absolute travesty, for the record. I'm no DeSantis fanboy, far from it, but I'd do almost anything to keep it from being Haley vs Biden. But the current trend isn't going my way. Aside from Trump still killing it, of course. Have I mentioned, Trump 2024, MAGA?!
Yeah, agreed. Worked out well for them in 2016, right? And we've solved a fair few of the, uh...election irregularities we had last time. Not as many as I would like, but we closed quite a few of the doors that led to Biden, the most popular candidate ever, getting elected. Trump is already looking so much better than 2020, which he should have won. Heck, by many metrics he looks better than '16.
RINOs killed 2022, because they'd rather have Dems than Trump. Blake Masters and Tshibaka, much? Man, they did Masters fucking dirty, and also propped up Murkowski to an insane degree. It was fucking disgusting. The Republican establishment all but openly said they'd rather support a Democrat than anyone even vaguely related to Orange Man.
They should probably stop trying to strike him from the ballot, then!
Eh...
I've said before, I'd take the chance of Trump "losing" versus Biden, versus Haley winning against him, any day of the week.
Uh. That's giving them way too much credit, in my opinion. They tried to stop you from voting for Trump, because they want you to vote for Trump!
LOL.
I am amazed you are still taking him seriously enough to respond. Dude has more TDS than a large chunk of dems at this point.