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posted 2 years ago by Telia 2 years ago by Telia +56 / -0
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– Gizortnik 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

That is not the same as "Israel ordered Hamas to preform an attack on itself to justify a war".

Everybody in the MENA area is benefitting the perpetual conflict. That's why it's allowed to go on.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The allegation is not that Israel ordered Hamas, but instead allowed the attack to gestate and take place, therefore obtaining the cri de couer to take care of the Gazan problem, which was why they funded Hamas in the first place.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That's still ridiculous, as Hamas has been dominant in Gaza for decades, and this isn't the first major attack that they've led. So, if the existence of Hamas is all an elaborate Israeli trap, that's the slowest fucking plan anyone's ever seen.

In reality, Israel tries to manipulate their enemies to their own advantage, like everyone else.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

It's just capitalizing on an opportunity, kind of like how the WTC was bombed several years before 9/11.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

There's no conspiracy about the events surrounding the 1993 bombing. Al-Qaeda hit a target, and originally intended to destroy the towers entirely. It was a complete and total intelligence failure by the US security establishment; almost as big as 9/11 itself. With 9/11, they saw it coming and failed to act. In 1993, they didn't see a fucking thing.

It's the same reason FDR didn't order the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor, but his actions (and the Navy's actions) were criminally negligent.

FDR wanted a war with Japan. He didn't want the Pacific fleet to be nearly wiped out. Had Japanese pilots been more disciplined (a shocking failure on their part in retrospect), they very well could have effectively won the war with the US in Pearl Harbor. Yes, we know he was provoking Japan for a war by whatever mechanism he could, but the outcome of Pearl Harbor wasn't it. It was too devastating, and too complete of a disaster.

We know what real false flags look like. They don't undermine the security state, they reinforce it. A small action, hyped into a major scandal, developing a causus belli for a war that was clearly already prepared for in advance.

This, WTC, and Pearl Harbor all have a completely different problem: they are absolute and catastrophic failures to the security establishment, that shows crippling weaknesses in preparedness and strategic thinking, while leaving a major moment of vulnerability open to follow-up attacks that the attackers didn't exploit, because they never expected to have such a success. With Pearl, the Japanese did follow-up because they are professionals. AQ thought they'd be shot down long before they reached their targets.

In all 3 of these cases, the attacked party was completely caught unaware. Netanyahu is emphasizing "tragedy" because if he doesn't, he looks criminally stupid. He has to act tough, because if he doesn't the Israeli Left will eat him alive. Remember that he has a major constitutional crisis on his hand with the judiciary. His enemies are still operational.

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