Japan censors Baldurs Gate 3
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Bruh. I'm talking about mass market games, not schizo porn off Limewire and dodgy Geocities sites. 95% of kids were not aware of text ""games"" where you could diddle Troi
AND EVEN THEN
the exposure of the mass market is a totally different scale than the porn you could search on the internet. Exposure to porn is one of the most time-honored groomer tactics in the book. I wonder why the market developed this way?
Bruh, you may or may not be old enough to remember, but this shit was easily and widely available.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softporn_Adventure
Leisure Suit Larry was in every Egghead, Babbages, Funco, etc around. It was mainstream, by one of the most mainstream and family-friendly companies out there.
Why did the Romans have pornographic artwork. Why did most cultures around the world. Because people are nasty, horny, beasts who like looking at titties.
If left to our own devices, people want to fuck and and look at titillating things. Culture needs to fight against that. My beef is with your recency bias. This is NOT NEW.
You're acting like Leisure Suit Larry was a household name in gaming. I think we all know that's not the case.
Exposure and normalization of porn TO CHILDREN. Don't be obtuse.
I mean if we're being technical I don't think the Romans made any delineation between kids and adults seeing sexual artwork, even where they did have censors visiting houses. I recall reading some families had giant phalluses on the kitchen table "to promote fertility".
LSL was a household name but was explicitly marketed to adults. Your overall point about the shift in culture is correct, despite the fringe exceptions KeeperOfTheGate brings up.
Word, I can't speak to the extent of Roman erotic artwork or the nudity of their sculptures. But to make a facile point, they didn't have man-bear sex simulators on their tables.
Yeah, fair enough. I was aware of Leisure Suit Larry because I saw a review for it somewhere, but never played it. I don't even know if anyone else knew about it. Kids talked about GTA, Smash, Halo, Gears, Mario, Spyro, etc. The PC fielded strategy games like Starcraft/Warcraft and MMOs like WoW and EVE. Good times.
Correct. Phalluses were magical, basically. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascinus
Like in the Renaissance, artwork and nude statues were common. Some of it sexual, some it not. You can find the same thing across the world. (See Lingam stones in India, neolithic phalluses in Europe, Phallic Egyptian deities, etc.)
And BG3 is marketed towards children? It's 17+ on Steam. Leisure Suit Larry, with its zany, cartoony imagery, marketed alongside King's Quest, Quest for Glory, was certainly available and arguably marketed to children. My parents wouldn't let me get it, but I had friends who played it. (Maybe 5th/6th grade ages.)
The point again is not that things aren't more available now, or more explicit, or more degenerate. Everything has intenstified. The point is that the original statement, "that elementary school kids didn't have the ability to have sex with people in games 10-20 years ago" is just not true. I went back to the 1970s and 1980s with examples. Ten years ago was 2013. Do you really need a list of widely available games in ~2010 that had player fucking?