Both conservatives and liberals bemoan men’s underrepresentation in higher education, their greater likelihood to die a “death of despair,” and the growing share of them who are not working or looking for work. But the chorus of concern rarely touches on how male decline shapes the lives of the people most likely to date or marry them—that is to say, women.
What a load of shit. This problem has been left to fester for decades, and the only reason anyone gives a shit now is because women are being inconvenienced. Well, that and their boogeyman Andrew Tate has men and boys questioning the feminist narrative that they've been fed since birth.
Egg freezing was not about their careers. It was about being single or in very unstable relationships with men who were unwilling to commit to them.
She was struck by how many young Arab men valued and looked forward to fatherhood—a sharp contrast with what she heard from young American women, who shared story after story of men “who were simply unready or unwilling to commit.”
"Unwilling to commit" is the key point here. Once again their worldview starts making sense when you substitute in "Chad and Tyrone" whenever they say "men".
egg freezing ... is not a process anyone undergoes lightly. It entails injecting high doses of hormones over a period of days or weeks to induce multiple oocytes to grow (in a typical ovulatory cycle, a single oocyte matures in preparation for fertilization), frequent in-clinic monitoring with blood draws and often transvaginal ultrasounds, and a retrieval under sedation. The eggs are then rapidly cooled, at which point they can be stored for years. In the U.S., the procedure—which is starting to more commonly, though not predominantly, be covered by employer insurance plans—can cost anywhere from $7,500 to $18,000 per cycle, depending on the city and the clinic, plus annual storage fees of $500 to $1,000 a year.
Imagine going through all of this because you hate betas so much. These whores deserve every bit of misery that they've brought upon themselves.
Inhorn categorizes this army of the “unready or unwilling” into 10 archetypes the women claim are responsible for their dating misery
Funny how they don't ask the men their side of the story. Maybe it's time to look at the roastie in mirror?
As long as these patterns hold, the growing chasm between college-educated men and women is going to leave some women partnerless.
Tell them to fuck off and die, just as they gleefully tell the male incels. I know a number of women who found a husband before the age of 25, and they were all able to do so because they made it priority. It's the ones who rode the cock carousel until the age of 35 and expect a billionaire gigachad to descend from the heavens and marry them that are having issues, and they can go get fucked in the bed they made.
She was struck by how many young Arab men valued and looked forward to fatherhood—a sharp contrast with what she heard from young American women, who shared story after story of men “who were simply unready or unwilling to commit.”
Could it be that becoming a father in the arab world doesn't place a sword above your neck that the mother can release for any or no reason at all?
Arab men actually have a serious amount of power in a relationship, so of course they're going to look forward to fatherhood - they have a social guarantee that they'll get atleast SOMETHING out of the entire fucking thing.
Whereas, in the west, we constantly play deference to women and anything ill that happens, the man is blamed for it.
People are shocked that men aren't stupid and can read the room and culture, film at 11.
Imagine going through all of this because you hate betas so much.
Did the right go from telling men to man up and be "alphas" to blaming women for not wanting some soy-infused beta loser?
Tell them to fuck off and die, just as they gleefully tell the male incels
I haven't seen women, not even the obnoxious college-educateds, say that men "deserve to be raped" because they won't marry women.
It's the ones who rode the cock carousel until the age of 35 and expect a billionaire gigachad to descend from the heavens and marry them that are having issues, and they can go get fucked in the bed they made.
Did the right go from telling men to man up and be "alphas" to blaming women for not wanting some soy-infused beta loser?
Betas are just men who don't get chosen for their looks and height and have to offer prostitution adjacent "relationships" to get women. All soy infused losers are betas, but not all betas are soy infused losers.
Why are you bitter about 'the bed they made'?
Why are you resorting to feminist shaming tactics to shut down anyone who comments on civilization destroying social trends? I've already been sized up for betabuxxing and extricating myself from that situation was not a good time. It's high time these entitled feminists learned to take "no" for an answer.
Betas are just men who don't get chosen for their looks and height
Except that when they do get chosen, you claim that it's just for "beta bux", even when there is no evidence at all for that. So in essence, you're just in your own way.
And if you just look around outside, you find a lot of couples where the man is fat, short, badly dressed, rather abominable, certainly more so than the woman. Clearly, women's standards are not that high, in fact, they may be way too low and that is part of what is destroying civilization.
Why are you resorting to feminist shaming tactics
I'm not shaming anyone. It's just noticeable that you sound bitter.
It's the ones who rode the cock carousel until the age of 35 and expect a billionaire gigachad to descend from the heavens and marry them that are having issues, and they can go get fucked in the bed they made.
Why would you be mad about some hypothetical woman "riding the cock carousel", and then having bad consequences fore it? Did she wrong you in any way?
to shut down anyone who comments on civilization destroying social trends?
Because you don't comment on the trend as much as you try to individualize the blame. People respond to incentives, and if men could get supermodels until age 35 (which is what you claim), exactly 100% would be doing that.
I've already been sized up for betabuxxing and extricating myself from that situation was not a good time. It'
So this is gonna be a mess to respond to the way I usually do, but a couple things:
I'm not in my own way, because I'm out of the dating market. Maybe that bitterness you sense is frustration, because I'm certainly frustrated. Both by women trying to betabux me on a personal level, and by the way romantically unsuccessful people are either demonized or coddled depending on whether they have dicks. I'm not interested in dating, but I get how hard it must be for men who are. It's hard to take an interest in men's issues and not conclude that Imp is right about a nontrivial proportion of the female population.
Yes I individualize the blame. They wanted their precious choice, so they can take responsibility for once in their lives. Having watched numerous women in my life make good choices when it came to dating and marriage I have zero sympathy for the ones who fuck it up. But it wouldn't be so bad if they didn't drag me into their crap and pump out shit articles about how men need to "step up" to save them from the retarded decisions they made with the "liberation" our great grandfathers made the mistake of giving them.
The "cock carousel" comment you mention is meant to draw a contrast between the carousel riders and women that I've personally witnessed not fuck it up. You know what they didn't do? They didn't sleep around with top men who would never commit to them. They married the best man they could find early (just like the Manosphere advises) and started raising families by their mid 20s. Those women experienced the same incentives that the carousel riders did, but because they thought beyond the tingles Chad gives them they got the families they wanted instead of becoming inspins at the age of 40. You're right that there's an incentive problem, but it's not an excuse for the bad choices these whores made, and it's certainly not an excuse for them demanding high income men ride to their rescue because they didn't like their options when they had them.
What a load of shit. This problem has been left to fester for decades, and the only reason anyone gives a shit now is because women are being inconvenienced. Well, that and their boogeyman Andrew Tate has men and boys questioning the feminist narrative that they've been fed since birth.
"Unwilling to commit" is the key point here. Once again their worldview starts making sense when you substitute in "Chad and Tyrone" whenever they say "men".
Imagine going through all of this because you hate betas so much. These whores deserve every bit of misery that they've brought upon themselves.
Funny how they don't ask the men their side of the story. Maybe it's time to look at the roastie in mirror?
Tell them to fuck off and die, just as they gleefully tell the male incels. I know a number of women who found a husband before the age of 25, and they were all able to do so because they made it priority. It's the ones who rode the cock carousel until the age of 35 and expect a billionaire gigachad to descend from the heavens and marry them that are having issues, and they can go get fucked in the bed they made.
Ah, yet another permutation of the tired Hillary Clinton's "primary victims".
Notice the mocking, shaming tone "the chorus of concern".
Feminists have zero empathy for men, they only care about how they are affected when they lose access to them as utilities.
"Men dying in despair, women most affected."
Could it be that becoming a father in the arab world doesn't place a sword above your neck that the mother can release for any or no reason at all?
Fixing the family court grift is the real 3rd rail of American politics.
Arab men actually have a serious amount of power in a relationship, so of course they're going to look forward to fatherhood - they have a social guarantee that they'll get atleast SOMETHING out of the entire fucking thing.
Whereas, in the west, we constantly play deference to women and anything ill that happens, the man is blamed for it.
People are shocked that men aren't stupid and can read the room and culture, film at 11.
Did the right go from telling men to man up and be "alphas" to blaming women for not wanting some soy-infused beta loser?
I haven't seen women, not even the obnoxious college-educateds, say that men "deserve to be raped" because they won't marry women.
Why are you bitter about 'the bed they made'?
Betas are just men who don't get chosen for their looks and height and have to offer prostitution adjacent "relationships" to get women. All soy infused losers are betas, but not all betas are soy infused losers.
Why are you resorting to feminist shaming tactics to shut down anyone who comments on civilization destroying social trends? I've already been sized up for betabuxxing and extricating myself from that situation was not a good time. It's high time these entitled feminists learned to take "no" for an answer.
Except that when they do get chosen, you claim that it's just for "beta bux", even when there is no evidence at all for that. So in essence, you're just in your own way.
And if you just look around outside, you find a lot of couples where the man is fat, short, badly dressed, rather abominable, certainly more so than the woman. Clearly, women's standards are not that high, in fact, they may be way too low and that is part of what is destroying civilization.
I'm not shaming anyone. It's just noticeable that you sound bitter.
It's the ones who rode the cock carousel until the age of 35 and expect a billionaire gigachad to descend from the heavens and marry them that are having issues, and they can go get fucked in the bed they made.
Why would you be mad about some hypothetical woman "riding the cock carousel", and then having bad consequences fore it? Did she wrong you in any way?
Because you don't comment on the trend as much as you try to individualize the blame. People respond to incentives, and if men could get supermodels until age 35 (which is what you claim), exactly 100% would be doing that.
See your first sentence.
So this is gonna be a mess to respond to the way I usually do, but a couple things:
I'm not in my own way, because I'm out of the dating market. Maybe that bitterness you sense is frustration, because I'm certainly frustrated. Both by women trying to betabux me on a personal level, and by the way romantically unsuccessful people are either demonized or coddled depending on whether they have dicks. I'm not interested in dating, but I get how hard it must be for men who are. It's hard to take an interest in men's issues and not conclude that Imp is right about a nontrivial proportion of the female population.
Yes I individualize the blame. They wanted their precious choice, so they can take responsibility for once in their lives. Having watched numerous women in my life make good choices when it came to dating and marriage I have zero sympathy for the ones who fuck it up. But it wouldn't be so bad if they didn't drag me into their crap and pump out shit articles about how men need to "step up" to save them from the retarded decisions they made with the "liberation" our great grandfathers made the mistake of giving them.
The "cock carousel" comment you mention is meant to draw a contrast between the carousel riders and women that I've personally witnessed not fuck it up. You know what they didn't do? They didn't sleep around with top men who would never commit to them. They married the best man they could find early (just like the Manosphere advises) and started raising families by their mid 20s. Those women experienced the same incentives that the carousel riders did, but because they thought beyond the tingles Chad gives them they got the families they wanted instead of becoming inspins at the age of 40. You're right that there's an incentive problem, but it's not an excuse for the bad choices these whores made, and it's certainly not an excuse for them demanding high income men ride to their rescue because they didn't like their options when they had them.
Most of the "right" are retards who just chase the latest psyop directed at them. "Muh 19th" is the latest psyop so there you go.