Of course. These people are bastions of morality and upstanding character now that they are of the group we like, so their actions we can put lofty concepts on retroactively to make them sound super heckin' cool!
Hey you know what is great for making sure others don't follow in your footsteps? Making it seem like its a decision you can "detrans" from, while getting fame, attention, and accolades the entire time!
You're being a condescending fuckwit about this but I think there are merits to the concerns you raise and it would behoove us to spend some time reflecting on them.
I've been nice about it. The response was "it makes Lefties and trannies seethe so its great" in no uncertain terms, with a healthy helping of "we must protect the wimmenz!" (because for some coincidence, all the loud and popular detrans-ers are FTMs, curious that).
I'll accept that I was a dick about it, but by the time I replied to him he was already -20+ with the only other response being an inaccurate strawman saying "muh both sides centrist bad!" Which tells me no one is interested in reflecting on it, only being part of the popular narrative.
That's just basic human psychology. Everyone wants to be part of the mob. Unfortunate but true.
I see echoes of my own political evolution in this. I started on the left because that's how I was raised. In my youth it was the boogeyman of the right wing evangelicals decrying all the blood in Mortal Kombat and the like. Then as an adult the left pulled the same stunt from their ideological angle. It's important to recognize the underlying actions and not just the teams that employ them. I wish more people would be on guard against the common pitfalls, but as we've established most people aren't really interested in anything more than a surface level examination of anything.
The mob didn't start from nowhere. My issue with it from the outset was that no one gives two shits about any of the MTFs groomed, broken, and trying to detrans. Its only the FTMs, because girls crying equals instant sympathy to their plights and suddenly we need to "support their efforts and sue the doctors!" instead of just "Total Tranny Death." All their fucking years spent online helping groom other kids into trannies is completely forgotten because "she is like, so regretful guys! She is a victim!!!!"
And then fast forward, and the narrative is set. You can't call out an attention whore for attention whoring, she is a heckin' brave girl trying to repent for her sins! You are just a meanie head for saying otherwise!
I don't disagree with your points otherwise, its just hilarious and infuriating how many people who should know better don't even bother to notice how led by the nose they are to their conclusions. As long as it fits their agenda, they'll back write the plot for it.
Of course. These people are bastions of morality and upstanding character now that they are of the group we like, so their actions we can put lofty concepts on retroactively to make them sound super heckin' cool!
Hey you know what is great for making sure others don't follow in your footsteps? Making it seem like its a decision you can "detrans" from, while getting fame, attention, and accolades the entire time!
You're being a condescending fuckwit about this but I think there are merits to the concerns you raise and it would behoove us to spend some time reflecting on them.
You're just being a dick though.
I've been nice about it. The response was "it makes Lefties and trannies seethe so its great" in no uncertain terms, with a healthy helping of "we must protect the wimmenz!" (because for some coincidence, all the loud and popular detrans-ers are FTMs, curious that).
I'll accept that I was a dick about it, but by the time I replied to him he was already -20+ with the only other response being an inaccurate strawman saying "muh both sides centrist bad!" Which tells me no one is interested in reflecting on it, only being part of the popular narrative.
That's just basic human psychology. Everyone wants to be part of the mob. Unfortunate but true.
I see echoes of my own political evolution in this. I started on the left because that's how I was raised. In my youth it was the boogeyman of the right wing evangelicals decrying all the blood in Mortal Kombat and the like. Then as an adult the left pulled the same stunt from their ideological angle. It's important to recognize the underlying actions and not just the teams that employ them. I wish more people would be on guard against the common pitfalls, but as we've established most people aren't really interested in anything more than a surface level examination of anything.
The mob didn't start from nowhere. My issue with it from the outset was that no one gives two shits about any of the MTFs groomed, broken, and trying to detrans. Its only the FTMs, because girls crying equals instant sympathy to their plights and suddenly we need to "support their efforts and sue the doctors!" instead of just "Total Tranny Death." All their fucking years spent online helping groom other kids into trannies is completely forgotten because "she is like, so regretful guys! She is a victim!!!!"
And then fast forward, and the narrative is set. You can't call out an attention whore for attention whoring, she is a heckin' brave girl trying to repent for her sins! You are just a meanie head for saying otherwise!
I don't disagree with your points otherwise, its just hilarious and infuriating how many people who should know better don't even bother to notice how led by the nose they are to their conclusions. As long as it fits their agenda, they'll back write the plot for it.