If the cost of being able to buy and sell safes on the 2nd hand market is defeating the entire purpose of a safe in the first place, probably best we just not have a 2nd hand market.
A warrant isn't carte blanche for the feds to do whatever the fuck they want in your house. If they actually thought the safe had some dark secrets (they don't), they would have to subpoena Liberty Safe for the access codes.
If the options are "defeat the point of having a safe in the first place" or "forgetful idiot gets fucked by his incompetence," I'm gonna just say that guy loses his safe and learns a lesson. Every time we try to have a quality of life barrier net for everybody, it just gets exploited by the worst people.
Also, the company had the option of just going to jail (or paying the fine). They weren't powerless here, they cucked out in cowardice.
Otherwise you'd never be able to get into a used safe.
Sure you would. You wouldn't be able to reuse a used safe, but a safe isn't expected to be safe against an attacker unrestricted by time, noise or lack of power tools.
Alternatively, you could buy a used safe alongside the key it came with, and/or the combination it came with given to you, and accept the risk that the prior owner will know a code. Ultimately, some random schmoe who happens to be selling his old safe is less likely to attempt access to the safe than basically anyone else in the first place, anyways.
I don't think that they had the guy's combo. Instead they must have a backdoor code to get in.
They have master codes based on the serial number of your safe. Otherwise you'd never be able to get into a used safe.
If the cost of being able to buy and sell safes on the 2nd hand market is defeating the entire purpose of a safe in the first place, probably best we just not have a 2nd hand market.
They also want to be able to let you open your safe if you somehow forget the combination without destroying a $5k safe.
The issue isn't that they have it, or that they were forced to follow a warrant.
The issue is that that warrant was issued in the first place.
A warrant isn't carte blanche for the feds to do whatever the fuck they want in your house. If they actually thought the safe had some dark secrets (they don't), they would have to subpoena Liberty Safe for the access codes.
I'ma be honest homie.
If the options are "defeat the point of having a safe in the first place" or "forgetful idiot gets fucked by his incompetence," I'm gonna just say that guy loses his safe and learns a lesson. Every time we try to have a quality of life barrier net for everybody, it just gets exploited by the worst people.
Also, the company had the option of just going to jail (or paying the fine). They weren't powerless here, they cucked out in cowardice.
Sure you would. You wouldn't be able to reuse a used safe, but a safe isn't expected to be safe against an attacker unrestricted by time, noise or lack of power tools.
Alternatively, you could buy a used safe alongside the key it came with, and/or the combination it came with given to you, and accept the risk that the prior owner will know a code. Ultimately, some random schmoe who happens to be selling his old safe is less likely to attempt access to the safe than basically anyone else in the first place, anyways.
You can recode a mechanical or electronic safe.
I'd rather not have that "convenience" as a hypothetical used safe buyer than have a backdoor code known to third parties.