The point that stands out to me is that she was in the process of climbing over/through the barrier when she got shot, and there were a lot of people behind her who likely would have followed. I can understand feeling like you have to shoot in that circumstance.
Shooting based on piled-up contingencies? This actually makes it sound much less justified to me.
It's striking that the right attempts to justify the murder of people on the right, whereas the left just does a who-whom analysis.
But I still wouldn't put it past them to have planned murder in advance, in order send a message. Everything else about that day was staged after all.
Risky if true. Because in many such cases, murdering actually inflames the crowd. Maybe that is what they wanted.
Agreed. There's far too big a divide here when there shouldn't be one at all. If a civilian had done the same thing, in the same circumstances, the response would be very different.
I didn't mean a civilian. I meant if a cop had done it in defense not of the ruling class (or its puppets), but in defense of you and me.
It's striking that the right attempts to justify the murder of people on the right, whereas the left just does a who-whom analysis.
Yeah, trying to be fair against opponents who want you dead and will utilize every dirty trick to make it happen is a loser's game, I know.
But I value the truthfulness of our discussions here at .win, and I want to call it like I see it. When I try to put myself in the shoes of the guy with the gun I get 'Oh shit they're breaking through, I'm going to get mobbed and beaten to death and so are the people I'm protecting' because that's probably what my thought process would be if an angry group was breaking through a barricade. Maybe I'm being too generous. He is a professional after all.
I didn't mean a civilian. I meant if a cop had done it in defense not of the ruling class (or its puppets), but in defense of you and me.
Shooting based on piled-up contingencies? This actually makes it sound much less justified to me.
It's striking that the right attempts to justify the murder of people on the right, whereas the left just does a who-whom analysis.
Risky if true. Because in many such cases, murdering actually inflames the crowd. Maybe that is what they wanted.
I didn't mean a civilian. I meant if a cop had done it in defense not of the ruling class (or its puppets), but in defense of you and me.
Yeah, trying to be fair against opponents who want you dead and will utilize every dirty trick to make it happen is a loser's game, I know.
But I value the truthfulness of our discussions here at .win, and I want to call it like I see it. When I try to put myself in the shoes of the guy with the gun I get 'Oh shit they're breaking through, I'm going to get mobbed and beaten to death and so are the people I'm protecting' because that's probably what my thought process would be if an angry group was breaking through a barricade. Maybe I'm being too generous. He is a professional after all.
That is also true.