The dishonesty of their screeching is shown by the fact that they'll advocate for Michael Brown, who assaulted and tried to kill a cop, and want to give a medal to the guy who murdered Ashli Babbitt, a short, unarmed woman who was no threat to anyone.
Of course, it's not just about white/black, but it helps - I'm sure they'd love it if a black Trump supporter was murdered too.
and want to give a medal to the guy who murdered Ashli Babbitt, a short, unarmed woman who was no threat to anyone
I've always thought it wasn't completely unreasonable for him to shoot, but no way should he get a goddamn medal for it. Any call to give him one is politically motivated and is essentially saying 'it's virtuous to shoot right wingers'.
Which shouldn't be a big surprise from the 'Punch a nazi!/You're a nazi!' crowd.
It might not be 'completely unreasonable', maybe 1% reasonable or something, but when there is a barrier between you, the person you're killing is so unthreatening, and you neither warn nor fire warning shots, I do regard it as murder.
But murder in defense of the rich and powerful is always justified. I'm no John Brown supporter, but he said it exactly right.
Warning shots don't exist unless you're in the middle of nowhere. There is no such thing as firing a shot that isn't a threat to anybody unless you're at a firing range.
The point that stands out to me is that she was in the process of climbing over/through the barrier when she got shot, and there were a lot of people behind her who likely would have followed. I can understand feeling like you have to shoot in that circumstance.
But I still wouldn't put it past them to have planned murder in advance, in order send a message. Everything else about that day was staged after all.
But murder in defense of the rich and powerful is always justified. I'm no John Brown supporter, but he said it exactly right.
Agreed. There's far too big a divide here when there shouldn't be one at all. If a civilian had done the same thing, in the same circumstances, the response would be very different.
They took the anti police violence movement and stole it. And managed to look stupid doing it. Anti police violence is a no brainer issue at least in the abstract. To go and say oh it's really about blacks grossly distorts everything that's going on primarily because most of the blacks deserve it.
If you limit yourself to blacks... it seems unsolvable. at the very least, you need to limit complaints to the guys who weren't asking for it. That should be argument 101, but BLM can't handle it because it's ideological for them.
Yup. I remember the movement was growing quickly in 2012-2013. It seemed like every day there were multiple posts on the reddit front page featuring police misconduct. I'm sure there were comments making it a race issue, but the overwhelming majority were focused on the issue without a racial component.
I think it was actually Matt Walsh that used to report in it a lot. It was in Reason magazine a lot. That was the first time I had ever been exposed to the media caring about police violence except for basically Rodney King shit. Alternative media anyways.
But it's kind of like the beating of protestors. Since Civil Rights the media DNGAF about white protestors beaten . But the beatings of so called Civil Rights campaigners are remembered to this day, like that asshole John Lewis who never did shit for his people BUT get beat up.
Yeah I can get behind a push to hold corrupt cops more accountable, but to make it all about black people is absurd.
99/100 times it's some thug who resisted arrest and fought the police and ended up dead. You make a cop fear for his life, he's going to put you down.
Tony Timba type incidents are what we should be focusing on, and it's clear that skin color has nothing to do with them.
The dishonesty of their screeching is shown by the fact that they'll advocate for Michael Brown, who assaulted and tried to kill a cop, and want to give a medal to the guy who murdered Ashli Babbitt, a short, unarmed woman who was no threat to anyone.
Of course, it's not just about white/black, but it helps - I'm sure they'd love it if a black Trump supporter was murdered too.
Well yeah, see the compilations of them literally calling Clarence Thomas a "fucking nigger" and shit like that.
I've always thought it wasn't completely unreasonable for him to shoot, but no way should he get a goddamn medal for it. Any call to give him one is politically motivated and is essentially saying 'it's virtuous to shoot right wingers'.
Which shouldn't be a big surprise from the 'Punch a nazi!/You're a nazi!' crowd.
It might not be 'completely unreasonable', maybe 1% reasonable or something, but when there is a barrier between you, the person you're killing is so unthreatening, and you neither warn nor fire warning shots, I do regard it as murder.
But murder in defense of the rich and powerful is always justified. I'm no John Brown supporter, but he said it exactly right.
Warning shots don't exist unless you're in the middle of nowhere. There is no such thing as firing a shot that isn't a threat to anybody unless you're at a firing range.
The point that stands out to me is that she was in the process of climbing over/through the barrier when she got shot, and there were a lot of people behind her who likely would have followed. I can understand feeling like you have to shoot in that circumstance.
But I still wouldn't put it past them to have planned murder in advance, in order send a message. Everything else about that day was staged after all.
Agreed. There's far too big a divide here when there shouldn't be one at all. If a civilian had done the same thing, in the same circumstances, the response would be very different.
He should at least go to trial. A jury (not in DC) can decide if he was being reasonable or not.
They took the anti police violence movement and stole it. And managed to look stupid doing it. Anti police violence is a no brainer issue at least in the abstract. To go and say oh it's really about blacks grossly distorts everything that's going on primarily because most of the blacks deserve it.
If you limit yourself to blacks... it seems unsolvable. at the very least, you need to limit complaints to the guys who weren't asking for it. That should be argument 101, but BLM can't handle it because it's ideological for them.
Yup. I remember the movement was growing quickly in 2012-2013. It seemed like every day there were multiple posts on the reddit front page featuring police misconduct. I'm sure there were comments making it a race issue, but the overwhelming majority were focused on the issue without a racial component.
Then BLM hijacked it like you said.
I think it was actually Matt Walsh that used to report in it a lot. It was in Reason magazine a lot. That was the first time I had ever been exposed to the media caring about police violence except for basically Rodney King shit. Alternative media anyways.
But it's kind of like the beating of protestors. Since Civil Rights the media DNGAF about white protestors beaten . But the beatings of so called Civil Rights campaigners are remembered to this day, like that asshole John Lewis who never did shit for his people BUT get beat up.