Shit man, next year we're gonna be a decade old. Its also wild that you can trace the line of dominoes from us to the exposure of all the current day insanity, one event and regime-double-down at a time.
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GG was crazy. I lost friends over simply saying there might be some validity to the complaints. I wasn't even waving a GG flag or anything, simply saying maybe some journos were scum, not all accusations of "sexism" made sense, GG was being smeared, and I didn't appreciate cultural invaders. Basically, "It's Okay to be a Gamer."
Same thing about 2016, actually. Even without waving a Trump flag, I lost relationships with friends and family for saying evil warmongering Hillary was an evil warmonger.
It's amazing how they managed to fracture and divide everything so badly, where even opinions that should be so non-controversial, like politicians and journalists are self-serving jackasses who are tearing apart the fabric of society, suddenly became verboten Wrongthink.
Honestly, one of things I find most frustrating about leftists and the left; how they turn on a dime with no regard for history, give no shits about hypocrisy, and the true NPCs don't even remember what they believed last fucking week. Before any 'mah both sides,' yes, the right does this too, but not to anywhere near the same degree. Leftists are masters of historical blindness and quickly changing values to fit their newly downloaded ideology.
The left used to agree with me that politicians were largely scum, journalists served the regime, war was generally bad, (really) treating people equally was good, censorship was bad but free speech was good, and liberty was a good ideal. But overnight, believing in those "liberal" ideals (not exclusively liberal, but ideals liberals claimed to agree with) made you Far™ Right™.
I'd stopped watching TV in about 2008 and stopped following politics around that same time. So I was basically stuck on pre-Obama shitlib politics. The bits and pieces of current events I picked up through osmosis were all filtered through that lens.
In 2012 I was sitting in a restaurant on election night watching people toast Obama somewhat confused why a bunch of "liberals" were celebrating a guy who assassinated American citizens.
Then during Donglegate, Elevatorgate, and then GG I kept finding myself wondering (and sometimes outright asking) why my friends kept supporting such obviously stupid people.
"Why are you trusting what a 'journalist' says?"
"Why was this one rude thing Richard Dawkins said among thousands of rude things he's said actually bad?"
"Why are you trying to define some set of things that all 'good' atheists ought to believe in? I thought the whole point of atheism was finding your own path"
"Why aren't you allowed to make a private joke to a colleague at a conference? And since when are you against 'offensive' jokes?"
"Why are you of all people crucifying a nerd for awkwardly asking a girl out?"
I once heard someone describe this side of things as "most people here aren't conservative or right-wing. They're liberal nerds who expected the system to play by its stated rules and were surprised to learn it didn't."
That reminds me...remember Shirtgate? That poor guy got fucking roasted, for no reason.
The shirt, made by one of his friends, who is a woman.
Guy had just landed a probe on a comet or something but the focus was "Look at how he's dressed" 🙄.
Relevant.
I'd almost forgotten that one. Though I don't remember there being much controversy about it among my friends at the time.
Leftists are post modernist and neo Marxist. They have no fixed principles. Hypocrisy isn’t a byproduct; it’s their greatest weapon. It’s codified and systemic. Comparing that to the hypocrisy of bad actors on the right is laughable.
I thought Trump was an insane lunatic and a racist birther, and that his supporters were lowlife, racist inbred hicks. Basically, the standard European opinion when you don't know anything about America and think that you actually get an accurate picture of the country by reading the New York Times.
But whenever I voiced any opinion that strayed even mildly from media orthodoxy, Hillary supporters would level the most vile insults at me for only agreeing with them 95%, while pro-Trump would say things like "I understand that you don't support Trump, but it's at least good that you're thinking for yourself". I started thinking that just maybe these people aren't the bad guys I had been told, and that these other people might be possessed by the demon called the media.
Things have gotten so bad that I can't help but laugh at my earlier thoughts about Trump and his supporters, which even if true, aren't nearly as bad as the situation now.
Probably because the right has no power anywhere. But yeah, 'muh both sides' does not apply because we're dealing with the world as it is, and the problems we find here, and not with the problems of world of the imagination where leprechauns rule and are oppressing us poor humans.
Isn't it a classic? Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
Unless you're a far leftist, in which case you believe things practically as absurd as that, without questioning the insanity in the slightest. Again, part of the big problem with the ideology; they actively refuse to see the world as it is, instead focusing on fictional utopianism.
I think we overestimate the role of ideology and underestimate that of conformity. The average far-leftist doesn't believe what he does because of some coherent (or even incoherent) ideology, but because he simply believes what he's told to believe, what all his friends believe, what the media tells him, what his teachers told him.
It might also be more pleasant to believe that. The CIA are the good guys, America is doing good around the world, you have the truth imparted to you by the media, and the only problem is that there are these Trumpians who refuse these obvious solutions.
Belief in solutions rather than trade-offs, described in detail by Thomas Sowell, is a main problem here - and not just with the left. Almost everything is a trade-off. Everything that you believe 'will make the world better' will also make it worse in some other area, just almost never to the same extent.
i lost a friend for saying i had no sympathy for that fat bitch or quinn because they were known trolls getting what they deserved.