I asked Bing if there was enough LIthium in the world for everyone to get an EV car ......Based on the web search results, it seems that there is not enough lithium in the world to convert every ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicle to an EV (electric vehicle). According to a report by Forbes⁹, by 2030, EVs will need 2,700 GWh worth of lithium-ion batteries a year, which is equivalent to 225 billion iPhone 11 batteries and 13 times more battery power than we use today. However, the global supply of lithium is limited and concentrated in a few places, such as Australia, Chile, and China. The demand for lithium is expected to exceed the supply by 2025, according to the International Energy Agency (IEA)². This could lead to higher prices, lower quality, and environmental and social impacts.
Some of the challenges and solutions for meeting the lithium demand for EVs are:
- Price: The price of lithium has increased significantly due to the growing demand for EVs. The price of Australian spodumene, a lithium-rich raw material, has grown more than tenfold from $415 per tonne in January 2021 to $4,994 per tonne in October 2022¹. This could make EVs more expensive and less affordable for consumers. To lower the cost of lithium, some possible solutions are increasing the efficiency and recycling of batteries, developing alternative sources of lithium, such as brines or clays, and diversifying the supply chain to reduce dependence on a few countries²⁴.
- Range: The range of EVs depends on the capacity and performance of their batteries, which are influenced by the quality and quantity of lithium. The average range of EVs in 2020 was about 320 km, while some models could reach up to 600 km². However, this may not be enough for some drivers who need to travel long distances or who have unpredictable driving patterns. To increase the range of EVs, some possible solutions are improving the battery technology and design, such as using solid-state or metal-air batteries, expanding the network and accessibility of charging stations, and optimizing the driving behavior and conditions²⁴.
- Infrastructure: The infrastructure for EVs includes the network of charging stations that can provide electricity for their batteries. The availability and accessibility of charging stations may vary depending on the location, the type of charger, and the cost of charging. Some drivers may face difficulties in finding a suitable or convenient charging station near their destination or along their route. Some drivers may also prefer to charge their EVs at home, but this may require additional equipment and installation costs². To improve the infrastructure for EVs, some possible solutions are increasing the investment and innovation in charging technologies and services, such as fast chargers or wireless chargers, enhancing the integration and coordination of electricity grids and renewable energy sources, and providing incentives and regulations for charging station operators and users²⁴.
- Awareness: The awareness of EVs includes the information and knowledge that consumers have about their benefits, features, and reliability. Some consumers may have misconceptions or doubts about EVs, such as their safety, durability, or maintenance. Some consumers may also be unaware of the environmental and social impacts of EVs, such as reducing greenhouse gas emissions, improving air quality, and supporting renewable energy sources². To increase the awareness of EVs, some possible solutions are providing accurate and transparent information and education about EVs and their advantages and opportunities, promoting positive experiences and testimonials from EV users and experts, and encouraging social norms and values that support EV adoption²⁴.
I hope this helps you understand more about why there is not enough lithium in the world to convert every ICE vehicle to an EV. Do you want to chat more about this topic or something else? I'm happy to talk about anything that interests you. 😊
Source: Conversation with Bing, 21/08/2023 (1) As Tesla Booms, Lithium Is Running Out - Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/sites/danrunkevicius/2020/12/07/as-tesla-booms-lithium-is-running-out/. (2) Electric vehicle demand – has the world got enough lithium? | World .... https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/07/electric-vehicles-world-enough-lithium-resources/. (3) How Australia became the world's greatest lithium supplier. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20221110-how-australia-became-the-worlds-greatest-lithium-supplier. (4) Lithium supply and demand to 2030 - Fastmarkets. https://www.fastmarkets.com/insights/lithium-supply-and-demand-to-2030. (5) This chart shows which countries produce the most lithium. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/01/chart-countries-produce-lithium-world/. (6) Is your lithium stock having a rough week? China may have something to do with it. https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/markets/is-your-lithium-stock-having-a-rough-week-china-may-have-something-to-do-with-it/ar-AA1fouiI. (7) Lithium Demand For EVs Is Soaring, and This 1 Stock Is Rolling in Cash. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/topstocks/lithium-demand-for-evs-is-soaring-and-this-1-stock-is-rolling-in-cash/ar-AA1fbazq. (8) EV Supplier Livent Holds Up Amid Lithium Price Declines -- Is It a Buy?. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/ev-supplier-livent-holds-up-amid-lithium-price-declines-is-it-a-buy/ar-AA1fopFK. (9) Demand for electric vehicles rising but battery costs, policy inertia .... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-08/evs-in-demand-lithium-expensive-government-policy/100969628.
The other thing that gets overlooked is the electric grid. The electric grid isn't going to be able to support a full conversion to electricity as is and none of them are talking about upgrading it. Power outages are going to be another thing they use to justify taking even more control. Especially with them already having started to ban gas stoves. Expect mandatory "smart thermostats" in the near future too.
California can't even handle the summer on a normal year. They have rolling blackouts in LA every year, and they think everyone driving electric will just work.
It's hard to imagine that place was considered paradise on earth back in the sixties.
I think they know better, but plan on using it for more control. They'd have to be completely retarded to think they could handle going 100% electric when they can barely handle the current demand. While I'd certainly never accuse them of being geniuses, the bigger problem is that they're evil and think they'll never personally face any consequences.
looks at people like Occasional Cortex
You think most elected politicians have any real power? Those with the real power are those who bankroll her campaigns and pay for her lifestyle.
When I look at tools in positions like her I don't see an idiot in charge, but rather a useful idiot made to feel special with an advanced title.
They don't think they won't face any consequences, they know it. It's why they're so blatant. What everyone calls stupidity I more accurately call malicious arrogance
While I agree that they won't be punished, even they won't be totally unaffected if their actions cause everything to collapse. Every luxury they enjoy is made by someone else and they'll notice when there's no one around to provide those luxuries anymore.
Some idiot in CA is already proposing that charge stations should be "bidirectional," aka they should have the ability to suck energy out of your car for the greater good.
The only reason Cali was ever considered "paradise" was because of the weather, and natural landscape (beaches and mountains.) Not anything about the human side of it much. :P
That, and stick a palm tree on something and bam, human subconscious says "paradise". It's why the dude on the little island with the one coconut tree works so well as a joke across multiple generations.
It's funny how quiet they've all been recently about the Texas electricity issues, since for the last two years after the issues because of a 100 year winter event all I've heard how the evil right wingers are responsible for the dilapidated state of the power grid in Texas. National sources loved to talk about how great they were and Texas was so so bad. Until this summer when it's been over 100 for the better part of two months in much of the state, and well, the electricity is fine.