Been seeing a lot of autism-related posts lately. I figured I'd chime in to spell out what's going on. From the perspective of a sperg.
The radical left would never have power or clout for their issues if they only raised money and protested about the singular issues they actually care about. There isn't actually all that much interest in turning the country into China "done right this time" for example. Not a whole lot of interest in making all kids into genderless unicorns, either.
The radical left has done something like World of Warcraft's horde. They look for people neglected, aggrieved, pissed off, and they try to hoop those people in. They do it with promises of support, change and representation. Intersectionality itself is just a promise that the more "reasons" you have to be pissed off, the more clout and power you have in this arena.
Look at the Black population. I'll relate this back to autism in a minute. Do we have playing with acceptable terminology? Yes. Do have have "scientific research" designed to quantify victimhood? Yes. Do we have a shell game going on with how it's acceptable to talk about these things to landmine the normies and keep them out of the discussion? Yes. Do we see lionizing of bad or self destructive behavior as a virtue? Yes. Did it get added to the war-banner of the progress -- the pride flag, despite not at all being part of sexuality or gender? Yup! Destroyed elements of gatekeeping so fat feminist Marxists could become leaders? Yup.
Guess what? All this is going on with Autism. On a similar timescale to how Black was co-opted.
Main grievances: Actually get killed by the police more often than any other protected class. 85% unemployment rate but not explicitly protected from workplace discrimination the same way a physical disability is. ( So you're toast if the office ladies find you "creepy." ) Remaining 15%? Only a quarter are full time and without government programs designed to keep them in a job. Other 75% of working autistics need a support program like a job coach or subsidized wages. Communicative autistics with aspergers automatically deemed ineligible for support benefits because asperger's diagnosis included a level 1 support requirement instead of 2 or 3.
How the left co-opted us: Deleted the aspergers diagnosis. Now all forms of autism are a "spectrum" and the government has to assess support level needs. Enables our worst behaviors. Speaks against attempt to screen for, treat or cure the disability. Promised us future help for seeking government assistance.
Re: Promoting autism as positive: Just look up autism and neurodivergent or neurospicy on tiktok. It's disgusting. You just have hundreds of young teen girls presenting themselves as autistic like mental health blackface. None of us exhibit the symptoms of all 4 domains AND have the wherewithal to also turn on a camera and ham it up. This growing community is adamant that autistics shouldn't be helped. This creates further victimhood for the purposes of trapping us on the leftist progressive plantation.
Re:Terminology -- Aspergers is being deleted as an acceptable term. They've turned him into a Nazi despite him being more like Oskar Schindler. Dude straight up saved as many autistics as he could from being gassed. They've recharacterized him as being a true-believer of Nazi-ism instead of realizing the dude had to fit in to have clout to save these people in a time when being the wrong ethnicity alone was reason enough. The USA has retired the diagnosis as of the latest DISM. The WHO already retired it from the IDC. There is now no health manual left that still allows for this diagnosis. Now that term and many terms around mental disability are socially taboo to speak despite the fact that it was just very useful to describe someone as having aspergers as opposed to autistic. When someone says autistic, you don't know what to expect. Headbutting, shit flinging, screaming, or just somebody with very specific knowledge, skills, and a poor social aptitude. Thanks leftists!
Re: Statistics -- I just demonstrated some of that activist research already in motion. They also have a lot of big ESG companies coming out and making statements about how much more productive their autistic workers are compared to normal people.
Re: Normies -- These terms like Neurotypical and Neurodivergent, not being allowed to just straight say autistic vs normal thinking and behavior. Same way they're trying to turn normal people into "Cis" when it comes to gender. This is to gatekeep you out and to also trick people into self-flagging as not progressive so they can be excluded and isolated.
Re: Prideflag -- Yes, there are now revisions that include autism being floated. You think they're a joke until it isn't. Just like we had thought the BLM prideflag was a joke.
Re: Infilitration -- Yup. There is a huge push to say that women have autism just as much as men. So feminist marxist women can take over the space. They're already doing a great job of this on tiktok and marginalize male voices. They also did this on reddit's two largest autism subs and have gotten a bunch of feminist "autistic" mods in charge of them. Aspergers is frowned upon and if spoken of in certain contexts, you're banned. If you forcefully voice your desire for a cure, you get shamed into oblivion. The aspergers subreddit itself keeps getting flagged NSFW due to reporting brigades, so you can't google scrape it and so you can't view it without logging in or using the old.reddit trick.
Regarding women having autism as much as men. They don't. It's a gendered condition. Genetic safeguards are more heavily present on the X sex chromosome and that is just enough to tip it towards being a majority male disease. Just like dementia and MS is a majority female disease or how parkinson's and ALS are masculine diseases. They justify this very large undiagnosed population with "women are better at masking their symptoms!" Okay, masking is real, but if you are hiding your symptoms well enough to be socially acceptable and lauded, and the men aren't, you are not clinically fit to represent all those who are incapable of doing so or speak for them.
We've all seen the statistics though. The left has convinced women as a whole to be needing of drugs and diagnosis for everything to explain general unhappiness. Which isn't their fault or inherent to their gender -- I'm not imp. I realize they've been manipulated and pandered to by the left.
All I really wanted as an autistic person was for our support needs to be assessed individually instead of being lumped into vocal or not vocal by the US government. Instead, I got my diagnosis deleted by commies and here we are. I got no voice. Run out of my own condition by narcissistic malingering feminist Marxists that want to have more foot soldiers for their political manipulation game.
Oh and I'll add that the autistic girls who do exist are being purposely targeted by groomers.
https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/largest-study-to-date-confirms-overlap-between-autism-and-gender-diversity/
The advocacy website frames this as a good thing. I think it's terrible. There are a lot of autistic girls who mistake their social problems for "being a man in a woman's body" instead of realizing that typical lower hygiene and appearance standards contribute to it more. They'll never get that realization while people lie and groom them.
They go down the chain of who's vulnerable to groom and unfortunately the autistic were next.
Fortunately/unfortunately, they are a cult and they are approaching the last days from how the general population of the West are starting to just be done with it all. This means they are goinging to escalate as hard as possible in a desperate grasp for any remaining power. Don't be surprised if they go FULL mask off and the p is added trying to claim that 'all love is valid'.
I'm already at the stage where any one actively involved in pride shit is getting excommunicated because I won't let them near my family or friend's kids.
Sadly, the genes run in the family. Sprinkled in examples of an uncle here, a nephew there, myself, a niece. Etc.
I've seen the new/young autistic already get targeted. They're swept up by the teachers from the electives you'd expect. Art teachers, theater teachers, and they get taken in by the herd of "gay" kids they have in the class. Since the autistic are often outcasts, they'll cling to being "gay" or "lesbian" or "enby" too, so they can have a group to belong to. It's sickening to see kids used as cult "love-bomber".
And unfortunately a lot of the hobbies they could escape to have been infiltrated, even anime and manga but that's more in the cosplay/fan communities, raw content you're fine, conventions are hit and miss.
I remember we could at least make autists feel part of something in the gamer scene but that got sanitised, the safest thing would be if they could be homeschooled and part of and old school church group, I'm not even lying. Old school religious groups might be your ONLY protection if you want to socialise the vulnerable.
Magic the gathering too. Magic playing kids was one of the OG 90s weird kid hobbies. Now it's an inclusive* safe space with pedo judges. =/
Pokemon has judges that'll disqualify you for being nervous when preferred pronouns are spoken of. Ughh.
*Does not include autistic people. They're "weird" and offend people!
I’m certainly not the first, or even the 100,000th person to conclude that this is the ultimate bottom. There’s certainly enough people who are racing to that bottom a little faster than the main body of the SJW movement that regular people are able to notice it: people pushing “minor-attracted persons” and so forth, plus just open and obvious stuff like twerking at children during pride parades. I think part of why “non-binary” has to be promoted as “valid” was a recognition that the movement needed to slow down and stave off the day when pedos would be the only “oppressed” class left to bring in. No one was pretending to be literally non-binary in their very soul (as opposed to say, choosing to dress androgynously) in any real numbers until Last Sunday, A.D., which is not even true of trannies, who CAN be found in history a little bit, even if we agree it’s a mental disease rather than a legit mismatch of body and soul. Non-binary just kinda came from nowhere, and while individuals may choose to ID that way to join the oppressed team, the decision by the movement as a whole to accept and promote them was, I’m convinced, a strategy to delay the time when it will be either, accept pedos, or the movement fizzles out.
Pedos is a very old part of the movment.
Old info dump.
The Father of the Sexual Revolution, Alfred Kinsey, and creator of the Kinsey Scale of sexuality, conducted infant rape and documented it in his 1946 work Sexual Behavior In The Human Male. Bill de Blasio put pedos next to elementary schools. The Tavistock Clinic was doing mass medical tranny experimentation on children, but was fortunately slapped down recently by reactionary judges. In Germany, Dr Kentler gave foster kids to pedos, and green movement founder Daniel Cohn-Bendit bragged about a child sex daycare. A high school in Ohio included child porn as part of it's curriculum, and a high school in Texas was caught giving kids pedo fan fic.
Globohomo's chomopomo prophets openly talk about their love of pedos:
-Camille Paglia, Sexual Personae
-Pat Califia, The Aftermath of the Great Kiddy-Porn Panic of '77
-Allen Ginsberg, The Liberation is the Word, literary author, gay activist and founding member of NAMBLA
-Guy Hocquenghem, Sexual Morality and the Law, signer of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws
-Gayle Rubin, Thinking Sex, widely regarded as a founding text of Gay/Lesbian studies and Queer Theory
-David Thorstad, rage email, president of both the Gay Activists Alliance and Coalition for Lesbian and Gay Rights in NYC in the 1970s, founder of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), compared being a pederast in the US with being "a Jew in Nazi Germany"
-Judith Butler, Undoing Gender, most influential living gender theorist. She sees incest taboo as working towards heteronormativity and asks that prohibition on incest be rethought to prevent the "violation" that is heteronormativity.
-John Money, Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia, psychologist who forced a boy to be a girl and get humped by his twin brother after a botched circumcision. Both of the Reimer brothers committed suicide.
-Michel Foucault, The Danger of Child Sexuality, Pope of Chomopomo, most cited academic in grievance studies, signer of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws
-Wilhem Reich, The Mass Psychology of Fascism
Other notable globohomo clergy:
Judge Brett Blomme, organizer of Drag Queen Story hour, made child porn in his home.
Henry "Harry" Hay, pioneer in US Gay rights, founder of the first sustained gay rights group in the US. Supported NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association) and marched in the pride parade with a "NAMBLA walks with me" shirt.
Magnus Hirschfeld founder in 1897 of an institute deemed "the first advocacy for homosexual and transgender rights", considered homosexual "ephebophiles" as something common and nonpathological.
Simone de Beauvoir, lesbian feminist superhero second to none, of "every woman is homosexual by nature" fame, was one of the signers of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws demanding "recognition of the right of children and adolescents to maintain relationships with persons of their choice". It was in reaction to three men being taken to trial for grooming boys and girls under 15 years of age, but allegedly "without violence".
Harvey Milk, the first openly gay elected official in California, of Oscar winning biopic about his life, and has a Navy ship named after him. Milk took advantage of his work with at-risk youth to groom at least one 16yo runaway Jack Galen McKinley who had substance abuse problems and lived on the streets of NYC (where the age of consent was 17). Jack would end up comitting suicide years later.
Pedowood is just the tip of pomochomo media:
Victor Salva's rape of his 12 year old actor is defended by intelligensia allies like John Edgar Browning.
Wikipedia is more pozzed than Charlie Sheen:
Rodney Reed raped a 12 year old and wikipedia covered it up for Shaun King's BLM bullshit.
Plebbit is run by tranny pedos.
tl;dr Not fucking children is somehow child abuse.
Last updated 18 September 2021
Original Author (u/TentElephant)
My sister in law has asperbergers. It's difficult at times because she honestly doesn't realize how bad she can be. She once told me how happy she was because my dog died. My brother has to explain social cues to her.
Then when I talk about it, the social workers over foster care demand I not say that because Aspberger was German and therefore evil. So, now my SIL is autistic.
It's really stupid.
Yeah I agree.
Having a distinctly separate term for it was useful. Sort of like how we don't put manic-depressive in the same bucket as bipolar people. All the psychological body had to do was practice some introspection, watch Schindler's list, and engage their brain for five seconds.
"Oh but aspergers has a level 1 support maximum and many need more than that!"
Yes. If the Nazi government suspected for a moment that the Autistic people would need further support, like level 2 or 3, they would have been gassed. That is why it was baked into the diagnosis as do-not-gas. Now that the Nazi don't exist as a country anymore, it's safe to remove that requirement of the diagnosis and allow it to be all three levels as needed based on the patient.
I can't mindread the situation, but I might have said something similar. The meaning behind it would have been something like "You've been upset over it having cancer for so long. Now it's over." thinking. Now if it was something like it got hit by a car... perhaps she was just being a bitch? Autistic people can be mean just like anybody else.
Introspection is not a thing narcissists do easily.
She is allergic to dogs and living in my house. She was happy her allergies were gone.
Yeah. Leaning on "bitch."
No offense :(
I assure you, I had to restrain myself from saying it to her.
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Ding ding ding. This is how the left operates. They create dependents by making them believe they have no choice but to vote for them.
"if we lose, your welfare payments will stop coming in!"
"if we lose, the police will hunt you down because you are black"
"if we lose, you will commit suicide because you can't get your hormone therapy that you totally need"
"if we lose, you will be jailed for being gay because the Republicans will get rid of gay marriage"
"if we lose, Russia will take over this country through their puppet president!"
they don't actually have a platform. they don't want or need one. all they want is to stay in power so that they can keep abusing the system to make themselves infinitely wealthy at the cost of paying lip service every once in a while.
The left aka collectivists. It's always about group power and allyship rather than helping people be their own man. "You NEED us. Don't ever forget it."
You're entirely correct, and this is how everyone who is "represented" by the Left feels as they get swarmed.
The only thing that you guys can do is effectively counter-signal that they can ESAD because they bring nothing but death.
"We don't need you."
chatgpt summary of this long-ass post:
The forum post expresses the author's perspective as an individual with autism. They argue that the radical left co-opts various marginalized groups, including autistic individuals, by promising support, change, and representation. The author believes that the left has deleted the diagnosis of Asperger's syndrome and redefined autism as a spectrum, enabling negative behaviors and discouraging attempts to screen for or cure the condition. They criticize the promotion of autism as a positive trait on platforms like TikTok, considering it a form of exploitation. The author also discusses the co-opting of terminology and the exclusion of certain voices within the autism community, particularly men and those who advocate for a cure. They claim that the left has infiltrated online communities and marginalized male perspectives, while promoting the idea that women have autism just as much as men, despite genetic differences suggesting otherwise. The author concludes by expressing frustration at the lack of individual assessment for support needs and feeling silenced by leftist manipulation.
You realize that being a normie is about accepting whatever narratives are safest, the ones distributed to you by the state and talking head classes. You made an argument in this post based on gas chamber holocaust claims being true, realistic, possible. You're a normie and typing these things in large walls of text does not change that. It sounds like I'm insulting you. Im not. I'm being a factor more kind and helpful to you than some in this thread, to whom your normietude is an accessory.
I just want to make sure I understand. Are you denying that Germany had programs to exterminate people they found undesirable or unfit to live?
Autistics were on the unfit list. A lot autistic, a little autistic, all of them were sent for evaluation and sent to be killed if found to be autistic. Asperger tried to change that by creating a carve-out. It is not safe, nor is it normie, to defend a "Nazi doctor" that has been disavowed by the world health organization, American government, and American psychological association. Especially when his private correspondence "talked the talk" to maintain his position as a Nazi official.
Are you asserting the allies had time to build dozens of gas chambers and plant bone flecks of thousands of killed and cremated people into the soil around them? With a Germany that had it's infrastructure bombed out and destroyed? All the people needed for a conspiracy such as this have also kept quiet, and destroyed all records, and never divulged the farce? That's what you're asserting?
I don't think a conspiracy of that size could stay secret.
In the most general possible terms, I am asserting that you are a normie based on parroted language and narrative concepts. The fact that you could reply in this way actually requires it. If I rolled my eyes any harder I'd have wasted two whole eyeball rotations on zilch.
My saying so is charity. I ought not even reply. I could be (very) wrong, but based on what I have read I personally doubt that you're likely to share even one individually conceived thought with me. Instead, normies assume ownership of external information with no agency beyond a quick authority / social safety check. Then you regurgitate it.
Gave you time. No response, of course. You're either a stormf*g or a glowie looking to find and groom anyone that'd listen to you for Governor Gretchen Whitmer situations.
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Why are you refusing the answer the basic premise of the question? Was it too complicated to tease out?
1.) Holocaust. Did any amount of it happen? Any truth to it at all, and if so, what?
2.) Are you asserting some/all the physical evidence is planted? If so, which, in the broadest possible terms?
3.) Why did your definition of normie change? Before it was about repeating what's safe to say. When I point out the lack of safety in defending a nazi psychologist, you ignore that.
4.) You said my thoughts are unoriginal. How often do people compare how black people were groomed into becoming progressives, to how autism is now being groomed into becoming progressives? Is it really that common? I really haven't seen people saying that anywhere else.
I mean:
The holocaust didn't happen. The only 'truth' is that jews were, indeed sent to camps where they worked.
There is no physical evidence.
Unfortunately, points (1) and (2) can't really be argued over the internet -- I have great success explaining them to people in real life, but I need pen/paper to do some sketches. If you're ready to think about it, the mammoth 'One-third of the holocaust', available on Bitchute is probably the best -- but it's three hours long, and slow-moving, because the director shows that every single (jewish) source that he's using is an actual, physical book.
The 'normie' part is because you invoked the totally madly evil 'Nazis!!!'
I don't think that your thoughts are unoriginal. Again, it's just the evil 'Nazis!!!' that gets tiresome.
Look, if you want an alternate viewpoint, go to the 'Unz Review', (www.unz.com). The author RON UNZ (a jew) has a series of articles up right now about WWII and Hitler. Read it and see what you think.
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I know you're NTA.
I believe there is physical evidence. The body burning process does not burn up the bones. Those had to be ground up with ball bearings in drum grinders. Not only is there photographs of chunky mostly-ground-up bones with pelvis and the like sticking up... there are buried caches of human ash and bone meal around the extermination camps. In fact, a large part of these these were found is because they do respond to metal detectors due to the fact that metal dust and missed ballbearings were often part of what was buried.
If your definition of proof requires you to be able to go there and play around in piles of human bone ash, and desecrate mass graves to satisfy yourself, I think that's unreasonable.
That said my bloodline is German, ashkenazi jew, and autistic. (which ashkenazi jew are disproportionately autistic.)
I had family members that were freed from work camps. According to them, I had other family members that were exterminated for mental illness or died from being worked too hard. There were no benefits at the time to playing that up. Certainly, my bloodline has erred on the side of poverty and the working class. Definitely not part of any secret cabals. No hush money. No victimbux. Do you mean to tell me that we're all carrying on a lie for some reason? I can't think of many reasons why a family would pass down a fictional history.
Also, why the elaborate backstory for the condition of asperger's itself? A ton of fake letters about fake autistic and their fake usefulness? Why useful propagandist or globalist function would that have? Only to delete the diagnosis less than 70 years later because of offensiveness?
I think the "Why" is fair to ask.
I'd also had, no offense, a lot of flat-earth believers and sovereign citizens excitedly and giddily tell me about their secret knowledge. I think there's a very real human need to be "woke" to some truth. Knowing something others do not helps us elevate ourselves above them.
While I do think the holocaust is probably overstated, and a lot less died than is stated, because I am well aware of how the left twists and distorts statistics... I do think the gas chambers and crematoriums were completely real and in active use. I think the soil itself around these places is physical evidence, and there is geological evidence from the unnatural amount of burning people going on.
TLDR: The left lies, but they build their lying on some aspects of truth. I think that truth is more sinister than work camps.
Arthur Fleck: you wouldn't get it.