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Republican primary voters most popular issues: This is the way (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 2 years ago by dekachin 2 years ago by dekachin +56 / -0
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– SmallTimeTrader 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The Democrat/Republican dichotomy is a lie to keep us distracted

You say that but then go on to list several issues on which the parties have very significant policy differences. If the Republicans held all the power things would be very, very different on those issues than if Democrats held it. That's no false dichotomy.

Now, I suppose what you're trying to get at is that there are some similar pathological aspects to both parties, for example the #1 issue for either party is preserving that party's political power by whatever means necessary. I'd love to see those issues addressed with things like campaign finance reform, more term limits, and getting rid of the asinine winner take all voting system we have, for example.

But don't spin those common problems up into something like 'the parties are the same'. They are not. Not even close. Their policies are wildly different, as is there voter base. You do yourself and others a disservice when you suggest they are very similar.

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– GiveThemNothing 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

But don't spin those common problems up into something like 'the parties are the same'

That is not what I meant when I said false dichotomy.

What I meant is the false choice that you must choose between the two factions of the UniParty.

Most elections I dislike BOTH parties, and they are BOTH invested in us not having a different viable choice.

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– SmallTimeTrader 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, I agree that both parties are fundamentally invested in the perpetuation of the two party system. And yeah, I do think that's bad for America as we're often left with a couple of crappy candidates to choose from. We desperately need something like proportional voting.

That said, just because both parties agree on this particular bad policy hardly makes them a Uniparty. Go and look at their platforms. Vastly different. Go and look at the congressional voting records. Vastly different, and usually along party lines.

Hell, just contrast the current administration with the previous one. Very, VERY different priorities and very VERY different impacts on your liberty and the eventual fate of this country.

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– SparkMandrill83 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Completely wrong. For one, republicans had power during Trumps term. What exactly did they do to solve any of the above issues? Thats right, zero. Republicans are all talk. Second, outside of the border and war funding, those issues are all petty as fuck. No one, from either party cares about them. Its just what they say to get you locked into their system. Once either party gets elected, then its all unanimous voting on more funding for government programs, more rights taken away, and more power for them. The left/right dichotomy in this country is all theater.

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– SmallTimeTrader 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You're right to criticize Republicans. They deserve it, and I'm sure we could both sit around and come up with plenty of reasons why.

But I just don't know how you get from there to 'they're just as bad as the dems', which is what you seem to be saying. I mean, sure they share some of the same pathologies, like ever increasing funding to entitlements like social security, medicare, etc, but much of that is realpolitik.

Just go and compare the official party platforms. They are VERY different, and representatives tend to vote along the lines of the party platform in most cases. You say that it's all unanimous voting for more govt. program funding and taking rights, but that just isn't the case. Go and review the congressional voting records on the "Inflation Reduction Act" or any major bill that deals with any of those issues and you will find a stark division along party lines in most cases.

But that's a bit abstract. For a nice, concrete examples just look at the current administration as a whole. They have been a disaster for this country on so many issues that are important to me and (i would imagine) to you as well. Now, contrast that with the last Republican administration. Yeah, the Reps. weren't great, but are you really here to tell me that you wouldn't rather have them in power right now?

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