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Zelensky confirms that Bakhmut has fallen to Russian hands and that the Ukrainian forces are in retreat, contrary to misleading reports by the mainstream media and British intelligence. (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by BidenIsAGroomer 3 years ago by BidenIsAGroomer +55 / -0
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– dekachin 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

What Zelensky says is news, whether or not it's true.

And the consensus online even among Ukraine supporters is that it's not true.

That's 3 of the biggest US news sources saying it's not fallen yet.

Incorrect. The article you linked states:

On Saturday the chief of the mercenary Wagner group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, claimed to have captured Bakhmut after months of brutal fighting, saying he would hand it over to Russia later in May,

CNN is unable to verify either side’s battlefield claims.

Your NYT link is busted: https://archive.is/9Tu62

In recent days, Russian forces clawing their way west through the city have fought through a final neighborhood of high-rise apartment blocks, reaching an expanse of garages, farmhouses and open fields to the west. The Ukrainian military said on Sunday it still held several buildings in that area.

It's fine to report on what Ukraine is saying, and also what Russia is saying. That's news. These stories you linked specifically do not come down on which side is correct, they're just repeating stuff from press conferences.

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– Assassin47 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

What Zelensky says is news, whether or not it's true.... It's fine to report on what Ukraine is saying, and also what Russia is saying

CNN: "Zelensky says"

CNN: "Russia claims"

C'mon man. You know how the media works. What Trump says is news, except when the media doesn't want to amplify his "Big Lies", then suddenly he's making claims WITHOUT EVIDENCE, and "people familiar with his thinking" are quoted more than the man himself.

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