If someone other than a jewish organization were to make these claims, wouldn't that count as demarking jews as 'conspiring'
Not really. It's the further step that they take, by saying that "Jews are always undermining their host societies" that does that.
The fact that many Jewish activists were involved in these causes, and that they are disproportionately active in them, is not controversial. The further step of claiming that an entire ethnic group is bad based on an infinitesimal number does it.
I don't approve, but I understand your motives and unenviable position as a moderator trying to keep the forum civil.
There are more important reasons than keeping things 'civil'.
The fact that many Jewish activists were involved in these causes, and that they are disproportionately active in them, is not controversial. The further step of claiming that an entire ethnic group is bad based on an infinitesimal number does it.
Can you show me the meaningful difference between those cases? If you have a significant Jewish elite in your nation then you end up with communist agitation no matter how you slice it.
Are you worried about people persecuting individual Jews on this forum or elsewhere?
He can tell you that Jews are disproportionately represented in leftist movements and leadership, and he can tell you that Jews survive via strong community and in-group biases, but he can’t connect these two dots and declare the possibility of an inherently problematic demographic.
Because collectivism is a parasitic leftist ideological failing, that leads midwits to utter insanity. The inability to recognize individuality makes the collectivists themselves irrational to the point of being subhuman.
Some X people bad - all X is this! Makes the person saying it retarded.
He’s literally the cartoon of the guy who refuses to take cover among his people and then immediately gets hit in the chest with a spear.
He also sounds exactly like most Jews when they speak about how non-Jews must reject collectivism… while Jews embrace it more fiercely than any other group.
Apparently, Israel is an ethostate because it lives in peace with Arabs, but if 'Gentile elites' were to support one, it necessitates the expulsion of any Jew or anyone who is slightly darker.
China. Every arabic nation. Every african nation. Most slavic nations. "Gentiles" are not just western europeans. You done being retarded yet in your quest to blame all the worlds' evil on a specific ethnic group?
Confront the reality that evil exists in many forms instead of hiding behind your pathetic mental safety blanket that "it's just da jooz, if we kill all da jooz everything will be fine".
I don't see much of a difference between elites who are Jewish, and those who are not. Both are rotten to the core.
The Jewish network muscles out dissenters, so that's related. Also, many "firsts" or pioneers of modern lib thinking were Jewish and motivated specifically by their background, like the father of anthropology Boaz for instance.
No, more that the place will be turned into another Stormfront that no one wants to join.
That's neo-Nazism. When you oppose people who are simply discussing things then you push people to the extremes.
The Jewish network muscles out dissenters, so that's related
Hold on, so Jews are to blame for non-Jewish elites are rotten? With no evidence to back it up? Yeah, this is getting into crazy territory.
Also, many "firsts" or pioneers of modern lib thinking were Jewish and motivated specifically by their background, like the father of anthropology Boaz for instance.
What of it?
That's neo-Nazism. When you oppose people who are simply discussing things then you push people to the extremes.
The thing is that a lot of these people are not interested in 'discussing' things. They're just spreading propaganda. It is very rare to have a productive discussion with one of that lot. Last time I tried, I was told that "the Holocaust didn't happen, but I wish that it did and hope for one in the future". Not even joking. And that guy was very, very mad about people calling him a Nazi.
Not really. It's the further step that they take, by saying that "Jews are always undermining their host societies" that does that.
The fact that many Jewish activists were involved in these causes, and that they are disproportionately active in them, is not controversial. The further step of claiming that an entire ethnic group is bad based on an infinitesimal number does it.
There are more important reasons than keeping things 'civil'.
Can you show me the meaningful difference between those cases? If you have a significant Jewish elite in your nation then you end up with communist agitation no matter how you slice it.
Are you worried about people persecuting individual Jews on this forum or elsewhere?
He can tell you that Jews are disproportionately represented in leftist movements and leadership, and he can tell you that Jews survive via strong community and in-group biases, but he can’t connect these two dots and declare the possibility of an inherently problematic demographic.
Because collectivism is a parasitic leftist ideological failing, that leads midwits to utter insanity. The inability to recognize individuality makes the collectivists themselves irrational to the point of being subhuman.
Some X people bad - all X is this! Makes the person saying it retarded.
Humans are social. Work in groups or die in your cave alone.
He’s literally the cartoon of the guy who refuses to take cover among his people and then immediately gets hit in the chest with a spear.
He also sounds exactly like most Jews when they speak about how non-Jews must reject collectivism… while Jews embrace it more fiercely than any other group.
He could be arguing for recognizing strict hierarchical relations. "Submit your group to my command or you don't get my cave."
Nothing you just said has any salience to my post whatsoever.
You have a point as far as people who talk trash about Stephen Miller because he's Jewish, but that isn't happening in this thread.
I don't see much of a difference between elites who are Jewish, and those who are not. Both are rotten to the core.
No, more that the place will be turned into another Stormfront that no one wants to join.
Gentile elites don't support ethnostates for their people. Let's start with that.
What makes an ethnostate?
Apparently, Israel is an ethostate because it lives in peace with Arabs, but if 'Gentile elites' were to support one, it necessitates the expulsion of any Jew or anyone who is slightly darker.
China. Every arabic nation. Every african nation. Most slavic nations. "Gentiles" are not just western europeans. You done being retarded yet in your quest to blame all the worlds' evil on a specific ethnic group?
Confront the reality that evil exists in many forms instead of hiding behind your pathetic mental safety blanket that "it's just da jooz, if we kill all da jooz everything will be fine".
The Jewish network muscles out dissenters, so that's related. Also, many "firsts" or pioneers of modern lib thinking were Jewish and motivated specifically by their background, like the father of anthropology Boaz for instance.
That's neo-Nazism. When you oppose people who are simply discussing things then you push people to the extremes.
Hold on, so Jews are to blame for non-Jewish elites are rotten? With no evidence to back it up? Yeah, this is getting into crazy territory.
What of it?
The thing is that a lot of these people are not interested in 'discussing' things. They're just spreading propaganda. It is very rare to have a productive discussion with one of that lot. Last time I tried, I was told that "the Holocaust didn't happen, but I wish that it did and hope for one in the future". Not even joking. And that guy was very, very mad about people calling him a Nazi.