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PCGamer can't believe Ukrainian military info was leaked on a Minecraft discord server. (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by Degex 3 years ago by Degex +22 / -0
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– Degex [S] 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

"Unlike the War Thunder leaks of the past, which were unlawful (and theoretically punishable by death in some countries) but mostly harmless."

But I thought every life is precious... And anyway, weren't some of the leaks on the Challenger 2 tanks the UK sent there or was it a different model?

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Was the challenger 2, you are correct. Kinda crazy how there's been multiple leaks over the years.

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– norwegianwikin 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Someone also leaked performance specs on the latest Chinese HEAT and/or APFSDS shell. Whoever that got traced to definitely got shot in the back of the head.

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– undecidedmask 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

They were documentation that was mostly training manuals and various other specs that could be figured out with video confirmation. Nothing that an advanced military wouldn’t know already. It’s mostly just funny that multiple people have leaked their “secret documents” to the world for a game lol. Still love that stupid game.

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– dekachin 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Yay I found it. Internet skills win again:

https://archive.is/FuIVS

https://archive.is/bEnOo

NYT article https://archive.ph/tHoH6

MAP of Bakhmut: https://i.imgur.com/iYSTT1C.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7GT9Iga.jpg

Summary as of 3/1/23, straight from biden's closet: https://i.imgur.com/DBK3oqQ.png

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– norwegianwikin 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Wagner has 22k in the field?

Russians are at 37 combat effective and 44 ineffective BNs, yet still have 3:1 in personnel vs. The Ukrainians.

The stuff about Ukr. running out of air defense by early May is probably why US and NATO are pushing now, those missiles can't be replaced at the rate of expenditure, once AD stops the drones, missiles and aircraft can hit Ukr. infrastructure at will and everything goes to shit. Assuming the Russians have weapons to throw at targets.

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– dekachin 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

once AD stops the drones, missiles and aircraft can hit Ukr. infrastructure at will and everything goes to shit.

Nah, it's not that easy. 1st, UKR has unlimited stingers, thousands of them, so RUS can't fly within stinger engagement range, ever. And there are lots of anti-drone weapons besides SAMs, so the idea that drones will ever be able to operate with impunity is just wrong.

2nd, UKR isn't going to fire all their SAMs and just sit on empty getting pounded. That's how shit works in video games, not IRL. IRL, when your ammo starts to get low, you ration it and hold your fire until you get high probability of kill shots.

What this means is that even if UKR runs low on SAMs, Russia still won't start trying to fly with impunity to run UKR out of ammo by offering UKR easy air kills, because the cost in losses of expensive aircraft will always be unacceptable to RUS. RUS might start operating a little more aggressively and take baby steps to see what they can get away with until something gets shot down, then they'll back off again.

If UKR is low on SAMs, they'll stop using them on cruise missile attacks. After all, those attacks have been ineffective anyway and UKR has been able to repair the electric grid quickly.

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– realerfunction 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

they're sending their best

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– GloboHomoErectus 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Reminds me of Al Qaeda communicating in World of Warcraft.

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– dekachin 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The 4chan docs appear to contain estimates of Ukrainian and Russian losses in the war, and a map of the contested city of Bakhmut.

interesting. anyone got a link?

The documents were also shared on Russian Telegram channels, although according to Toler, the Bakhmut map was not included among them. There were also two different sets of estimates, one indicating that Ukrainian combat losses are much lower than those of Russia, and then an edited image showing them as much higher.

lol, fucking russians need to lie about everything. "oh shit the leak makes us look bad, better edit the numbers!" lol

this leak includes information on an expected Ukrainian counteroffensive against Russian forces. The documents don't have specific details on the plan, and as they're more than a month old they may even be out of date at this point. But they do contain useful intelligence, such as the rate at which Ukrainian forces are using up HIMARS ammunition, which hasn't previously been disclosed. And, as the New York Times (opens in new tab) said, the leak represents a "significant breach of American intelligence."

ok now I need to see it.

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