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A YouTube competitor.. caused from a vtuber agency? (youtu.be)
posted 3 years ago by SoctaticMethod1 3 years ago by SoctaticMethod1 +18 / -0
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– SoctaticMethod1 [S] 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

I will laugh if what brings down YouTube was anime waifus

Seems Hololive is VERY aware of how vulnerable to YouTube's fuckery so in a document not meant for the public there's plans to make their own platform so they no longer have those risks.

Since the main issue with alt tech platforms is having the talent to bring in audiences, this already gives them an advantage as just see 4chans reaction to Pikamee to see the level of dedication they garner.

With the more right leaning heading to Rumble and now possibly normie and audiences from both sides following the vtubers of platform, could be interesting to see if this actually hurts YouTube.

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– TheModernDaVinci 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

It can not be underestimated just how many people that would bring if they ended up doing that. That is easily millions of fans per Vtuber, which probably means tens of millions since there are plenty of people who only sub to one or two (which means a lot of unique subscriptions).

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– SoctaticMethod1 [S] 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Especially if this platform if they make it, is opened up to OTHER vtuber agencies.

If I remember right, Hololive is mostly if not all YouTube while your Vshojo and Nijisanji is mostly Twitch and I think Phase connect is YouTube too. I can imagine after a few talks behind the scenes, A LOT of the YouTube focused agencies would switch quickly to the new platform while the Twitch ones might talk but use it as leverage against Twitch.

There's the other aspect of them being HIGHLY advertiser friendly, turns out people prefer buying products with a cute anime character on them than whatever the west is pushing this month. So it'd be funny if even advertisers see the traffic and switch.

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– TheModernDaVinci 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

And if they open it up to Indie Vtubers, it could help grow the platform that much more, as well as keep everyone on the up since it would keep competition tight (which would mean better content overall).

Certainly something to keep an ear to the ground over.

And if they open it up to all gamers, not just Vtubers? Damn, they have been looking for a YouTube alternative for years.

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– SoctaticMethod1 [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

There is a lot of cross pollination with gamers and vtubers, not just because vtubers play games but quite a lot of them stream with non-vtuber streamers like I watched Rimmy play sons of the forest with a squad that had vtubers and you have some indie and agency vtubers not shy to show their real body like Kson and 'technically' demondice (aka Mori)

So that is something that can be opened up to, the thing is I think we need to gatekeep certain things though, I'd prefer it if it was more entertainment focused to keep out the political actors as it'd be an issue if old media got it's hook in this new platform like they did YouTube.

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– TheModernDaVinci 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Oh yeah. I would imagine Cover would keep their “no politics” policy as a site thing if they ever did this. And that would even still allow for some latitude, like how Mori has picked fights (or at least, acknowledged them) with the usual suspects on Twitter and telling them to piss off.

I could see someone like Pippa struggling with that more, but honestly? I think a space that is just about entertainment would be useful and even helpful. And besides: the SJWs are so far off the reservation compared to normal people, that just being “neutral” puts a lot of people nearer to us than them (like Russian Badger and his friends doing politically incorrect jokes and talking about the guns they own, while insisting none of that is political).

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– SoctaticMethod1 [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Though on that Badger already has an in if this becomes a possibility. Since Heavenly is a vtuber too (with a really cool model I must say)

I think Pippa would actually be ok since she essentially can be grandfathered in, she says A LOT that she can turn into vtuber Alex Jones but she doesn't cause issues compared to the ones that actually had to be fired, not graduated, fired.

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– TheModernDaVinci 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Though on that Badger already has an in if this becomes a possibility. Since Heavenly is a vtuber too (with a really cool model I must say)

Wait what? This is news to me. looks it up I agree. Definitely a cool model.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

It'd be a good move for the vtubers, but the unspoken idea that conservative youtube is gonna find a new home under the protection of big titty anime mommies is not gonna happen.

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– SoctaticMethod1 [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

And that's very shortsighted, do they not realise how much money and influence they are leaving on the table by not being dominant 500 year old vampire counts telling women they should in the home serving them?

Slightly joking aside, I see it more as the more Conservative side going to Rumble with a few more improvements and the entertainment and popular side, in this case vtubers, doing moves like this which is self inflicted by YouTube itself since it's history of being unreliable, unreachable for feedback that it's faster to go through twitter and arbitrary with it's rules to base a business on.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Slightly joking aside

Slightly joking, but I believe you're right. Leaving money and influence on the table for the left to claim without opposition is the mistake conservatives have been making for 70 years.

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– trump4044 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Conservatives won't change, logic and foresight has always been their downfall. Even now they would happily support the left to get anime and it spin off cultures banned if they could. They already did it to western video games.

"The left can have it, its degenerate anyways."

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– SoctaticMethod1 [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Meanwhile an anime waifu game about taxes has shown how fucked the US system is more than anyone on the right

Maybe it's because I'm more machivellian so will use every potential resource I can or just because I enjoy anime but the conservative right's whole 'anime is morally wrong is idiotic to me.

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– FutaCumDiet 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

If they would rather stay on a platform that's going to abuse them, then the cuckservatives can fucking rot for all I care.

Lord helps those who help themselves.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

What on earth makes you think a platform set up by vtubing corporation would host the videos of right wing youtubers?

What fuck would be in it for them?

They won't do that.

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– FutaCumDiet 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

What fuck would be in it for them?

Potential fans, Micheal Dolt-on.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Not worth the hit to advertising revenue.

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