I wish prenups were worth a damn; they're the perfect thing to bypass a lot of modern bullshit. But, as you say, they can be voided for any reason whatsoever, up to and including 'well, she's getting less money than if the prenup didn't exist, so it's unfair.' What's the fucking point of a contract then?!
Not only that but things like child custody/support and alimony are off the table from the get go, so even if you win the lottery and are able to get the terms enforced you're still gonna get bent over the sink on those issues. Like you said a contract is worthless if it gets voided for achieving the result you seek to achieve to begin with.
The feminist groups would never allow that and claim that it would be used by abusive men to control them.
Then they shouldn't sign it. They're not owed anything.
Sad part is, the average woman doesn't even realize what an insanely, absurdly, astonishingly good deal she's getting. Or how entitled they sound. If they actually stopped to look at their own actions, and how the world works...man, they'd be surprised.
Best thing is unfortunately to simply not play their game and never attempt to establish a long term relationship with a woman unless you know you can trust her.
Unfortunately, relationships are a very human desire, and giving that up is a sacrifice many can't make and, in my opinion, shouldn't be asked to. Evolutionarily speaking, it's sort of like being expected to kill yourself. It really sucks how terrible the modern environment is when it comes to just trying to live.
Thankfully, these types of women are so unpleasant they often reveal themselves fast if you ever talk about the 'forbidden' topics in politics.
Yup, there is that. Sadly, the indoctrination also reaches deep, so I think tons of modern women - perhaps even most - have some level of this buried somewhere, and it's not always visible. If you grow up in this current environment, it's going to shape you.
ever attempt to establish a long term relationship with a woman unless you know you can trust her
The problem is that there are a lot of chameleons, and there's no guaranteed way to filter them out. You can filter out the ones that are dumb enough to make it obvious, but the risk is so extreme that playing the game is never a smart or even sane move. A long term girlfriend who doesn't cohabitate with you is the furthest you can go while maintaining a reasonable risk/reward ratio, and even then there are some risks. Not coincidently that's also the furthest you can go and still be considered MGTOW. A lot of MGTOW guys avoid dating altogether to further minimize risk, but no cohabitation, no marriage, and no kids are the only hard and fast rules.
I wish prenups were worth a damn; they're the perfect thing to bypass a lot of modern bullshit. But, as you say, they can be voided for any reason whatsoever, up to and including 'well, she's getting less money than if the prenup didn't exist, so it's unfair.' What's the fucking point of a contract then?!
Not only that but things like child custody/support and alimony are off the table from the get go, so even if you win the lottery and are able to get the terms enforced you're still gonna get bent over the sink on those issues. Like you said a contract is worthless if it gets voided for achieving the result you seek to achieve to begin with.
Then they shouldn't sign it. They're not owed anything.
Sad part is, the average woman doesn't even realize what an insanely, absurdly, astonishingly good deal she's getting. Or how entitled they sound. If they actually stopped to look at their own actions, and how the world works...man, they'd be surprised.
Unfortunately, relationships are a very human desire, and giving that up is a sacrifice many can't make and, in my opinion, shouldn't be asked to. Evolutionarily speaking, it's sort of like being expected to kill yourself. It really sucks how terrible the modern environment is when it comes to just trying to live.
Yup, there is that. Sadly, the indoctrination also reaches deep, so I think tons of modern women - perhaps even most - have some level of this buried somewhere, and it's not always visible. If you grow up in this current environment, it's going to shape you.
The problem is that there are a lot of chameleons, and there's no guaranteed way to filter them out. You can filter out the ones that are dumb enough to make it obvious, but the risk is so extreme that playing the game is never a smart or even sane move. A long term girlfriend who doesn't cohabitate with you is the furthest you can go while maintaining a reasonable risk/reward ratio, and even then there are some risks. Not coincidently that's also the furthest you can go and still be considered MGTOW. A lot of MGTOW guys avoid dating altogether to further minimize risk, but no cohabitation, no marriage, and no kids are the only hard and fast rules.