Why the Mental Health of Liberal Girls Sank First and Fastest
(jonathanhaidt.substack.com)
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I've got a degree in therapy and spent some time working in the industry. One of the biggest reasons I quit is because nobody wants to feel better. Everyone is just there because "talking and pills fix everything right?" and simply saying "I'm in therapy" is enough for some people to pretend they are working on it.
And, based on my experience and a lot of observation, 90% of people with "depression" don't have clinical depression, or any form of internally sourced depression at all that need any form of intervention. They have situational depression, which is literally just "something bad happened, I'm sad now" which they stretch into a long term thing by never dealing with it.
Like no shit you're fucking depressed, your life sucks. Stop treating the warning sign your body is giving you to get it together and instead just fucking get it together.
I will say therapy was handy for learning about cognitive behavioral therapy, but funny how my depression eased up once I:
left an environment I was alienated in
started keeping to a decent sleep schedule
stopped eating junk
started exercising regularly
And then you have all these people (women) saying iTs A cHeMiCaL iMbAlAnCe. Well yeah you're treating your body like garbage and taking drugs that further mess with your "chemicals" of course they're going to be out of whack.
And another thing, I'm not unconvinced that most of the people going to therapy, besides doing the above, just need actual friends or family they can talk to. Social connections are in the gutter for most people and getting worse by the decade. They're spending hundreds on what's essentially a rent-a-friend.
CBT helps separate the things you can change from the things you can't. It's a mindfulness/stoic technique, something many men have mastered throughout history without calling it CBT.
Women would benefit from CBT too, but they aren't that good at it (or it doesn't interest them). They tend to be far to attached to their emotions. I skimmed the article but it was mind-boggling how the author did not identify a key reason "liberal women" why were so caught up in these "anti-CBT behaviours" - those behaviours are all classically feminine:
I've said it before and will say it again, a major problem in Western society is everyone is becoming hyper-feminine and adopting these behaviours, which are useful for manipulating other people to gain some benefit, but will ultimately collapse the society if everyone is doing it (because not enough people are actually doing any work, they are all expecting someone else to fix things for them).
Yeah, most of them are surrounded by a family they don't have a good relationship with (whether its their fault or the family's) and "friends" who are such bad influences they would be considered toxic if they didn't have history with them. Almost all of people in the West's problems could be solved if they had someone to tell them basic obvious shit, and they trusted that person to do it. Insert your own jokes about lacking dads here.
And you hit the nail on the head. Most people's depression comes from them fucking up the most basic of bodily functions and their body panicking, which they then use to make it worse in a cycle of suffering. Sleeping properly alone would probably fix most people's emotional issues, and that includes oversleeping.
I take some comfort in the fact that many of these people will kill themselves once the war starts in earnest.
You shouldn't because they probably won't. Like a woman in an actual abusive relationship, they will survive against all odds and logical reasoning while both under maximum stress and willfully staying in a place that stresses them to the max.
Perhaps, but this is a scenario of food and power shortages and internet outage. Your average millennial prog will not survive that one way or another.
Stress is probably one of the biggest causes of people's physical health falling apart. It can age you prematurely, which is a path you can't undo once it happens. You might stop it from completing, but you'll be starting further up once it kicks in naturally.
And ironically, one of the best treatments for stress I've found is to not pay attention to it. Not suppress it, but simply not care about it. A phrase I keep in my pocket a lot is:
Because once you train your mind and body to realize that you can push through stress, it stops effecting you as heavily. Its an old technique used on treating phobias, but it applies pretty well to treating basic stressors as well.
In a race to the bottom, why be better? The currency of victimhood gains value the "worse off" you are, so actually sorting their depression would make them "less wealthy" in social standing.
With no outside pressure and no inside drive to change, they sit and fester, often to praise and rewards in the form of handouts.
If we stop subsidizing their lifestyle of misery, they would have to change.
Important to note that this behavior is exacerbated by anti-white indoctrination. White children are demonized by their teachers and peers, and the only avenue of escape is to designate yourself as a member of an alternative and protected demographic. Lgbt is one option, mentally ill is another. There’s a reason why these identities are exploding among white teenagers.
Would you say that such people require some philosophy?
I wasn't all that different in the past. What really helped me turn some things around (not that my life is great right now) was adding philosophy to all the psychology and talk therapy.
I tell kids now, when I see them struggling with depression, that it's basically just a signal that they are failing to move towards their life goals and deep personal values. They act a little surprised sometimes, because kids don't even know their life goals. So I try to explain that they wouldn't be able to have that depression if there wasn't something they really wanted and were failing to move towards. Like depression is some conscious sequence - no, it starts in the dark with all the things you weren't paying attention to.
Of course, there's some crap philosophies out there, so I try to push the core of logic and introspection.
I think I remember you speaking about how psychology and therapy were geared towards women. Perhaps it excludes philosophy because women aren't exactly deep thinkers.
Philosophy requires an ability for introspection and abstract thinking. For men, that's not a guarantee. Many would improve by being able to settle their chaotic thoughts and categorize it through philosophical ideologies, because their emotional state is caused by overthinking in the first place. But there are also those who do not have that ability either, for better or for worse.
That's why the industry of "man therapy" is actually taking off slowly but surely. Wherein, instead of deep thinking or simple talking, you are taken out to just do things. Boating, lifting, camping, wood/metal working. Just the act of doing these things (with some talking during to help the process) is shown consistently put men's minds in order. Not every man is meant to be an intellectual, but every man is still a man and his body reacts accordingly. Even a noodle arm beta commie will get his rush of testosterone and better feelings from seeing a shelf he built with his own two hands.
However, as you say, this doesn't apply to women in either form. Which is why talk therapy and pills are the dominant option. Because those are vaguely effective for women, on paper at least. It doesn't truly help them, because what they crave is nearly always their missing father giving them boundaries and removing the control they have over their own life. But therapists can't provide that very well.