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Why the Mental Health of Liberal Girls Sank First and Fastest (jonathanhaidt.substack.com)
posted 3 years ago by MonsterUltra 3 years ago by MonsterUltra +43 / -0
Why the Mental Health of Liberal Girls Sank First and Fastest
Evidence for Lukianoff’s reverse CBT hypothesis
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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

And, based on my experience and a lot of observation, 90% of people with "depression" don't have clinical depression, or any form of internally sourced depression at all that need any form of intervention. They have situational depression, which is literally just "something bad happened, I'm sad now" which they stretch into a long term thing by never dealing with it.

I will say therapy was handy for learning about cognitive behavioral therapy, but funny how my depression eased up once I:

  • left an environment I was alienated in

  • started keeping to a decent sleep schedule

  • stopped eating junk

  • started exercising regularly

And then you have all these people (women) saying iTs A cHeMiCaL iMbAlAnCe. Well yeah you're treating your body like garbage and taking drugs that further mess with your "chemicals" of course they're going to be out of whack.

And another thing, I'm not unconvinced that most of the people going to therapy, besides doing the above, just need actual friends or family they can talk to. Social connections are in the gutter for most people and getting worse by the decade. They're spending hundreds on what's essentially a rent-a-friend.

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– SomeHands10 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I will say therapy was handy for learning about cognitive behavioral therapy, but funny how my depression eased up once I...

CBT helps separate the things you can change from the things you can't. It's a mindfulness/stoic technique, something many men have mastered throughout history without calling it CBT.

Women would benefit from CBT too, but they aren't that good at it (or it doesn't interest them). They tend to be far to attached to their emotions. I skimmed the article but it was mind-boggling how the author did not identify a key reason "liberal women" why were so caught up in these "anti-CBT behaviours" - those behaviours are all classically feminine:

  • Catastrophizing: very useful for playing damsel in distress to get men and others to do things for you
  • Focusing on emotions: with regard to women, no explanation needed
  • Enjoy being playing the victim: playing damsel in distress gets men to do stuff for you

I've said it before and will say it again, a major problem in Western society is everyone is becoming hyper-feminine and adopting these behaviours, which are useful for manipulating other people to gain some benefit, but will ultimately collapse the society if everyone is doing it (because not enough people are actually doing any work, they are all expecting someone else to fix things for them).

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– Adamrises 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Yeah, most of them are surrounded by a family they don't have a good relationship with (whether its their fault or the family's) and "friends" who are such bad influences they would be considered toxic if they didn't have history with them. Almost all of people in the West's problems could be solved if they had someone to tell them basic obvious shit, and they trusted that person to do it. Insert your own jokes about lacking dads here.

And you hit the nail on the head. Most people's depression comes from them fucking up the most basic of bodily functions and their body panicking, which they then use to make it worse in a cycle of suffering. Sleeping properly alone would probably fix most people's emotional issues, and that includes oversleeping.

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