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American Perspectives Survey confirms what the Manosphere has been saying about the dating market (archive.is)
posted 3 years ago by FuckGenderPolitics 3 years ago by FuckGenderPolitics +34 / -0
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– FuckGenderPolitics [S] 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0

As far I know this is completely separate from the Pew study that came out recently. This survey asked people why they're single, and it backs up what the Manosphere has been saying for years with cold hard data. Here are some interesting highlights:

The survey also finds that infidelity is a disquietingly common experience, especially for women. Nearly half of women say that a partner or spouse has been unfaithful, including more than six in 10 black women.

That's what happens when women only choose the top 5 or 10 percent of men. They have to share them and they delude themselves into thinking that they're in a relationship when when the dude is just using them for sex until something better comes along. With black women it's made worse by them being lower value and more explicitly seeing cheating as a signal that the man is high value. Anyone familiar with black women's dating habits will tell you that a lot of them don't see faithful men as real men.

Reasons for marriage’s decline abound. As professional opportunities for women grew over the past few decades, they became more financially independent, reducing the immediate economic necessity of marriage. Shifting views about gender roles and legal changes to divorce law also contributed.

"Financially independent" is politically correct code for women refusing to date men who don't make significantly more than they do. As a woman's income rises the pool of men that she's willing to date shrinks. But the last sentence has a lot to do with the male side of the equation. Women have become entitled, masculine, and aggressive, which men don't want. 4 decades of no fault divorce and the internet have made men who don't see marriage for the anti-male scam it is more and more rare as the years go by.

Nearly four in 10 (38 percent) single women, compared to less than one-quarter (23 percent) of single men, say an inability to find someone who meets their expectations is a major reason they are not dating.

No fucking shit. That's one of those things that everyone knows but refuses to acknowledge because it reflects poorly on a privileged caste. The numbers actually understate the magnitude of the problem. Men just want someone who's decent looking, not a fatass, not a bitch, and not a single mother. It's women who have their laundry lists of "standards" that eliminates all but the top 5% of men or so. The problem is that feminism demonizes women who meet even the very minimal standards that men have, so those women have become pretty much impossible to find, which is why the statistic for men with that problem is as high as it is.

This is an especially salient issue for college-educated women.

Yeah, because no matter how high a woman rises she still feels entitled to a man who's even higher. It's not just money, it applies to college degrees as well. If a woman has a BA she feels entitled to a man who has one. Even if her BA is in gender studies and she's working at Starbucks she still feels entitled to a man with at least a BA, and one who has a real job at that. With colleges rigging the game against men the odds of college educated women finding what they feel entitled to are not in their favor. It's even worse at the graduate level. For every 4 women that get graduate degrees only 3 men do, and the men have expanded their dating pool instead of shrinking it, unlike the women.

But these were not the only perspectives. A 27-year-old married woman believes that many young women are not being realistic about what they can expect from their partner.

A lot of women I have met, a lot of my own peers who are the same age and still are unmarried . . . they’re out there looking for Mr. Perfect. He’s got to be over 6 feet. . . . He’s got to make so much money each year. His family has to be perfect. He has to agree with all of my own personal beliefs. And you know, I mean men are human too. They’re not going to meet all of those expectations.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner. They feel entitled to nothing less than perfection, and this perfect man can't have his own wants and desires. They just want a slave and a paypig. And a human dildo if he has the looks.

At the same time, this woman said she believes what many men are looking for is not realistic either.

I think men are still looking for a type of woman that doesn’t really exist anymore. . . . They’re looking for that 1950s housewife-type woman. And that’s just not the type of girls that I think are out there today. A lot of girls . . . want to go to college. They want to have a career. They want to make a name for themselves in the world. And then they want to settle.

She's correct, but the false equivalency is ridiculous. For one women's "standards" are largely based on immutable characteristics and men's simply require making good choices. The part after "A lot of girls" is just code for riding the cock carousel until she's 40 then conning some beta into cleaning up the mess she made and raising some other dude's children. It may not be realistic to find a woman who doesn't do that shit in our rotten culture but a man's dignity and self respect is more important than getting his dick wet.

Forty-three percent of Americans say they would be less likely to date someone who had children from a previous relationship.

Another no shit statistic. I'd like to see how that one breaks down by gender. Only a cuck raises another man's children, and men have a primal disgust that dissuades them from doing so. Not that it stops simps from trying to get laid by showing what good male feminists they are. But men with any self respect know that single mothers are for recreation only. Single fathers probably have it easier. Children might even be a mark in a man's favor since it shows that a woman has chosen him before (preselection).

Men and women differ somewhat in their preferences for dating someone who is a feminist, but even women view it more negatively than positively. Thirty-nine percent of women, compared to 55 percent of men, would be less likely to date a feminist

The percentage for women is pretty low, but that probably has more to do with women lying on surveys than women being willing to date male feminists. Women can smell soy from a mile away and it repulses them. They might accept one as a beta slave but even then she has worry about him committing sex crimes. No woman is going to pick a male feminist if she has other options. The percentage for men is lower than it should be but it's about where I expect. There are way too many simps who are willing to put up with feminists to get their pee pees touched.

Height is an issue for many Americans in the dating market, but it matters much more for women than men.

There is a considerable gender gap. A majority (56 percent) of women say they would be less likely to date someone who is “much shorter” than they are, but only 11 percent of men say the same.

You mean women are LYING when they say height doesn't matter to them as much men think it does? I'm shocked I tell you! Shocked!

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– Grumman 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Forty-three percent of Americans say they would be less likely to date someone who had children from a previous relationship.

Another no shit statistic. I'd like to see how that one breaks down by gender. Only a cuck raises another man's children, and men have a primal disgust that dissuades them from doing so.

You don't even need to go that far: only 1.7% of single mothers in the United States are widows, and any other cause of single motherhood raises red flags about your own relationship with the woman. If a woman gets one no-fault divorce she's more likely to be willing to get another, after all.

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– FuckGenderPolitics [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

You're correct, and widows don't present as many problems as women who threw the father of their children in the garbage for the reasons you bring up. It's still not worth it IMO. You're still competing with the last guy, he's just not around to fuck it up like some loser baby daddy. There's issues of time and priorities like with all single mothers, and at the end of the day being willing to raise kids that aren't yours will get you classified as a beta in her lizard brain regardless of the circumstances. I just don't see it as a net positive. But then again I'm biased and have trouble seeing even a childless woman as a net positive, so YMMV.

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– coke501 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It's women who have their laundry lists of "standards" that eliminates all but the top 5% of men or so

A lot of the time the first two or three points on that list (height, income, ethnicity) eliminate all but 5%.

The rest of their lists consists of points that none of these men will be ever be willing to put up with.

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