western as in England, France, Germany, Belgium, Denmark... and the US Liberal Empire that they answer to. Poland is in the EU for the grift [rightfully so] but they dont bow to UE demands [accept migrants or else]. So no Poland is not "in the west" by that definition
The concept of the West wasn't formed with the EU. There's the West and then there's the East (the Orient).
England is just a part of the UK.
The post-WWII France is and always was highly anti-American culturally and politically (even you should remember the resulting very silly anti-French hysteria in America in 2003 symbolised by the idea of "freedom fries" instead of French fries).
Poland is one of the most pro-American countries in the entire world, both in government policy and by all governments (in 2003 too) and in public opinion alike. Rivaled only by a few like Kosovo or Vietnam. The Polish people are actually more pro-American than the Americans themselves, who often dislike or even hate their own country.
I don't know, you tell me who's in the "American Liberal Empire".
France famously opposed America in 2003, thus the American anti-Frenchness symbolised by "freedom fries". (The French were historically very close to Saddam, even when Israel bombed that nuclear reactor site in Iraq it was being built by France and the attack resulted in French casualties. They also supplied him a lot of weapons such as Mirage aircraft and Gazelle helicopters to fight Iran, whose global Islamic Revolution ideology threatened and threatens the French secularism.)
While Poland most enthusiastically followed America into Iraq, thus Bush's famous "you forgot Poland" (which apparently you did forget, sad: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/you-forgot-poland), and at first our very own occupation zone (there were only 3: the American which was of course the greatest by far, the British around Basra, and the Polish around Najaf and Karbala).
It's not any "semantics", it's most basic geopolitics. As the Commienazi thought leader Dugin would say, "foundations of geopolitics".
Around the same time, Poland also let the CIA to run the black sites in Poland for "enhanced interrogating" the Muslim terrorists. We actually ended up sentenced by the European Court to pay compensations to the terrorists for that, because torture is as illegal in Europe as it is in America. There were a handful of other countries involved in it, like Egypt and Gaddafi's Libya, but there it was rather through rendition (the Arabs being given the prisoners to interrogate and just returning the results) and not the America's own black sites.
It's just very typical for Poland to do everything what America says, even when Western Europe is against it and/or it's literally illegal (and while Blair is seen as a "war criminal" in Britain for similarily following America into Iraq, and millions marched in the UK against the British participation, the Polish people had and have no problem with any because good relations with the American protectors are commonly seen as most important - Britain obviously doesn't like to feel like a military protectorate of America, its own former rebellious colony, despite America having already bailed out Britain in both 1917 and 1941 and in the latter case Eisenhower and McArthur even commanded the subordinate British forces as the Supreme Allied Commanders). And France has been a counter-America ever since the time of De Gaulle, with their deliberate efforts to maintain a very own culture and external politics both (and even ambitions to either lead NATO or leave NATO - they were actually very close to leaving in 1966 in a spat over their nuclear weapons).
So I guess you now know "who bows to the US demands" in reality, I guess?
Another clear beneficiary of the decline in ratings for Russia is the EU: It has received its highest rating in Poland (89%) since Pew Research Center began asking the question in 2007. And Poles are now much more likely than they were in 2018 to say that the EU understands the needs of Polish citizens and promotes democratic values, prosperity and peace. Fewer now also say that the EU is intrusive or inefficient. A majority (57%) says that the economic integration of Europe has strengthened the Polish economy.
More than three million Ukrainians have fled to Poland since Russia’s invasion, and eight-in-ten Poles now support taking refugees from countries where people are fleeing violence and war, up from 49% who held that view in 2018.
Not quite what you believe, I guess.
Are we in your "the West", now?
Also zoomers vs boomers (I'm about halfway between):
Attitudes toward Russia are negative across all demographic groups, but attitudes toward the U.S. and the EU are more favorable among Poles ages 18 to 29. Over half of 18- to 29-year-olds have a very favorable view of both the U.S. and the EU, compared with only about two-in-ten among Poles 65 and older.
Similarly, younger Poles are much more likely than their older counterparts to say that the EU understands the needs of Polish citizens and that the EU is not intrusive.
America fuck yeah:
Poles are also optimistic that the U.S. would step in if a neighboring NATO ally was in a military conflict with Russia. Roughly two-thirds (66%) believe the U.S. would use military force to defend the neighboring ally. Optimism about U.S. intervention on behalf of a NATO ally has increased by 19 points since 2019 and is the highest recorded since the question was first asked in 2015. Views on U.S. military intervention are similar among both men and women and those with differing views of Law and Justice.
Related, Biden enthusiasm:
In terms of Poland’s relationship with the U.S., the increase in favorable attitudes toward America coincides with a strong 82% confidence rating for U.S. President Joe Biden, a marked increase from the 51% who had confidence in former President Donald Trump in 2019.
lol, not reading that, retard. why isnt blocking working? go start your own Polish and/or Ukrainian site or accept that you arent relevant as you think on this one.
Reddit is an international site. It's not blocking Ukraine (or Poland), and Ukraine and Poland aren't blocking Reddit too.
Thus, many (most?) of the most dedicated and hardcore "supporters of Ukraine" you see on Reddit are simply from Ukraine (or Poland, and other countries like Poland).
Including, you know, the very "yellow and blue nazis" from this thread's title. Not any libs, not big fans of homosexuals and trannies, and some of the most "anti-vaxx" white people in the world.
And your fantasy Poland doesn't exist. Around 90% people in Poland are currently both enthusiastic about the EU and Biden personally, and almost as many now are for receiving refugees in general (up from less than 50% a few years ago). You may thank Putin for much of that.
no
western as in England, France, Germany, Belgium, Denmark... and the US Liberal Empire that they answer to. Poland is in the EU for the grift [rightfully so] but they dont bow to UE demands [accept migrants or else]. So no Poland is not "in the west" by that definition
The concept of the West wasn't formed with the EU. There's the West and then there's the East (the Orient).
England is just a part of the UK.
The post-WWII France is and always was highly anti-American culturally and politically (even you should remember the resulting very silly anti-French hysteria in America in 2003 symbolised by the idea of "freedom fries" instead of French fries).
Poland is one of the most pro-American countries in the entire world, both in government policy and by all governments (in 2003 too) and in public opinion alike. Rivaled only by a few like Kosovo or Vietnam. The Polish people are actually more pro-American than the Americans themselves, who often dislike or even hate their own country.
lol, once again, who is in the American Liberal Empire? who bows to the US demands. that is what I am talking about.
what is it with you and semantics? are you a bot?
I don't know, you tell me who's in the "American Liberal Empire".
France famously opposed America in 2003, thus the American anti-Frenchness symbolised by "freedom fries". (The French were historically very close to Saddam, even when Israel bombed that nuclear reactor site in Iraq it was being built by France and the attack resulted in French casualties. They also supplied him a lot of weapons such as Mirage aircraft and Gazelle helicopters to fight Iran, whose global Islamic Revolution ideology threatened and threatens the French secularism.)
While Poland most enthusiastically followed America into Iraq, thus Bush's famous "you forgot Poland" (which apparently you did forget, sad: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/you-forgot-poland), and at first our very own occupation zone (there were only 3: the American which was of course the greatest by far, the British around Basra, and the Polish around Najaf and Karbala).
It's not any "semantics", it's most basic geopolitics. As the Commienazi thought leader Dugin would say, "foundations of geopolitics".
Around the same time, Poland also let the CIA to run the black sites in Poland for "enhanced interrogating" the Muslim terrorists. We actually ended up sentenced by the European Court to pay compensations to the terrorists for that, because torture is as illegal in Europe as it is in America. There were a handful of other countries involved in it, like Egypt and Gaddafi's Libya, but there it was rather through rendition (the Arabs being given the prisoners to interrogate and just returning the results) and not the America's own black sites.
It's just very typical for Poland to do everything what America says, even when Western Europe is against it and/or it's literally illegal (and while Blair is seen as a "war criminal" in Britain for similarily following America into Iraq, and millions marched in the UK against the British participation, the Polish people had and have no problem with any because good relations with the American protectors are commonly seen as most important - Britain obviously doesn't like to feel like a military protectorate of America, its own former rebellious colony, despite America having already bailed out Britain in both 1917 and 1941 and in the latter case Eisenhower and McArthur even commanded the subordinate British forces as the Supreme Allied Commanders). And France has been a counter-America ever since the time of De Gaulle, with their deliberate efforts to maintain a very own culture and external politics both (and even ambitions to either lead NATO or leave NATO - they were actually very close to leaving in 1966 in a spat over their nuclear weapons).
So I guess you now know "who bows to the US demands" in reality, I guess?
Current public opinions since the (full scale) war: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/06/22/spotlight-on-poland-negative-views-of-russia-surge-but-ratings-for-u-s-nato-eu-improve/
Not quite what you believe, I guess.
Are we in your "the West", now?
Also zoomers vs boomers (I'm about halfway between):
America fuck yeah:
Related, Biden enthusiasm:
lol, not reading that, retard. why isnt blocking working? go start your own Polish and/or Ukrainian site or accept that you arent relevant as you think on this one.
Reddit is an international site. It's not blocking Ukraine (or Poland), and Ukraine and Poland aren't blocking Reddit too.
Thus, many (most?) of the most dedicated and hardcore "supporters of Ukraine" you see on Reddit are simply from Ukraine (or Poland, and other countries like Poland).
Including, you know, the very "yellow and blue nazis" from this thread's title. Not any libs, not big fans of homosexuals and trannies, and some of the most "anti-vaxx" white people in the world.
And your fantasy Poland doesn't exist. Around 90% people in Poland are currently both enthusiastic about the EU and Biden personally, and almost as many now are for receiving refugees in general (up from less than 50% a few years ago). You may thank Putin for much of that.