The concept of the West wasn't formed with the EU. There's the West and then there's the East (the Orient).
England is just a part of the UK.
The post-WWII France is and always was highly anti-American culturally and politically (even you should remember the resulting very silly anti-French hysteria in America in 2003 symbolised by the idea of "freedom fries" instead of French fries).
Poland is one of the most pro-American countries in the entire world, both in government policy and by all governments (in 2003 too) and in public opinion alike. Rivaled only by a few like Kosovo or Vietnam. The Polish people are actually more pro-American than the Americans themselves, who often dislike or even hate their own country.
I don't know, you tell me who's in the "American Liberal Empire".
France famously opposed America in 2003, thus the American anti-Frenchness symbolised by "freedom fries". (The French were historically very close to Saddam, even when Israel bombed that nuclear reactor site in Iraq it was being built by France and the attack resulted in French casualties. They also supplied him a lot of weapons such as Mirage aircraft and Gazelle helicopters to fight Iran, whose global Islamic Revolution ideology threatened and threatens the French secularism.)
While Poland most enthusiastically followed America into Iraq, thus Bush's famous "you forgot Poland" (which apparently you did forget, sad: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/you-forgot-poland), and at first our very own occupation zone (there were only 3: the American which was of course the greatest by far, the British around Basra, and the Polish around Najaf and Karbala).
It's not any "semantics", it's most basic geopolitics. As the Commienazi thought leader Dugin would say, "foundations of geopolitics".
Around the same time, Poland also let the CIA to run the black sites in Poland for "enhanced interrogating" the Muslim terrorists. We actually ended up sentenced by the European Court to pay compensations to the terrorists for that, because torture is as illegal in Europe as it is in America. There were a handful of other countries involved in it, like Egypt and Gaddafi's Libya, but there it was rather through rendition (the Arabs being given the prisoners to interrogate and just returning the results) and not the America's own black sites.
It's just very typical for Poland to do everything what America says, even when Western Europe is against it and/or it's literally illegal (and while Blair is seen as a "war criminal" in Britain for similarily following America into Iraq, and millions marched in the UK against the British participation, the Polish people had and have no problem with any because good relations with the American protectors are commonly seen as most important - Britain obviously doesn't like to feel like a military protectorate of America, its own former rebellious colony, despite America having already bailed out Britain in both 1917 and 1941 and in the latter case Eisenhower and McArthur even commanded the subordinate British forces as the Supreme Allied Commanders). And France has been a counter-America ever since the time of De Gaulle, with their deliberate efforts to maintain a very own culture and external politics both (and even ambitions to either lead NATO or leave NATO - they were actually very close to leaving in 1966 in a spat over their nuclear weapons).
So I guess you now know "who bows to the US demands" in reality, I guess?
The concept of the West wasn't formed with the EU. There's the West and then there's the East (the Orient).
England is just a part of the UK.
The post-WWII France is and always was highly anti-American culturally and politically (even you should remember the resulting very silly anti-French hysteria in America in 2003 symbolised by the idea of "freedom fries" instead of French fries).
Poland is one of the most pro-American countries in the entire world, both in government policy and by all governments (in 2003 too) and in public opinion alike. Rivaled only by a few like Kosovo or Vietnam. The Polish people are actually more pro-American than the Americans themselves, who often dislike or even hate their own country.
lol, once again, who is in the American Liberal Empire? who bows to the US demands. that is what I am talking about.
what is it with you and semantics? are you a bot?
I don't know, you tell me who's in the "American Liberal Empire".
France famously opposed America in 2003, thus the American anti-Frenchness symbolised by "freedom fries". (The French were historically very close to Saddam, even when Israel bombed that nuclear reactor site in Iraq it was being built by France and the attack resulted in French casualties. They also supplied him a lot of weapons such as Mirage aircraft and Gazelle helicopters to fight Iran, whose global Islamic Revolution ideology threatened and threatens the French secularism.)
While Poland most enthusiastically followed America into Iraq, thus Bush's famous "you forgot Poland" (which apparently you did forget, sad: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/you-forgot-poland), and at first our very own occupation zone (there were only 3: the American which was of course the greatest by far, the British around Basra, and the Polish around Najaf and Karbala).
It's not any "semantics", it's most basic geopolitics. As the Commienazi thought leader Dugin would say, "foundations of geopolitics".
Around the same time, Poland also let the CIA to run the black sites in Poland for "enhanced interrogating" the Muslim terrorists. We actually ended up sentenced by the European Court to pay compensations to the terrorists for that, because torture is as illegal in Europe as it is in America. There were a handful of other countries involved in it, like Egypt and Gaddafi's Libya, but there it was rather through rendition (the Arabs being given the prisoners to interrogate and just returning the results) and not the America's own black sites.
It's just very typical for Poland to do everything what America says, even when Western Europe is against it and/or it's literally illegal (and while Blair is seen as a "war criminal" in Britain for similarily following America into Iraq, and millions marched in the UK against the British participation, the Polish people had and have no problem with any because good relations with the American protectors are commonly seen as most important - Britain obviously doesn't like to feel like a military protectorate of America, its own former rebellious colony, despite America having already bailed out Britain in both 1917 and 1941 and in the latter case Eisenhower and McArthur even commanded the subordinate British forces as the Supreme Allied Commanders). And France has been a counter-America ever since the time of De Gaulle, with their deliberate efforts to maintain a very own culture and external politics both (and even ambitions to either lead NATO or leave NATO - they were actually very close to leaving in 1966 in a spat over their nuclear weapons).
So I guess you now know "who bows to the US demands" in reality, I guess?