The way you get a culture that would accommodate it "naturally" is your force it no different than the slow subversion of our "culture" through the academic system, media, etc... It has been done many times in history to great success.
You round up all politicians, business leaders and academics or otherwise prominent/influential people who disagree, kill them, then churn out propaganda for generations until eventually you get the "culture" you desire. You can come up with whatever excuse you want to kill the people too. You write the history.
Your re-writing of history fails to take into account that in each case the blowback of violent authoritarianism is a revival and resurgence of Leftist authoritarianism immediately once the current regime fails. But again, you wouldn't understand that.
Besides, why not just start with you? You're a Leftist degenerate with violent tendencies that can't be trusted in society. You'll end up attacking our friends, family, and loved ones simply because your an insecure, egomaniacal, psychopath who's projecting his personal failures onto everyone else. You're a wannabe school shooter. Why should you even be granted the right to declare your innocence when we can write whatever we want when your gone anyway?
You are one dumb motherfucker: somehow you even manage to shit up a thread about Hungary with your low-IQ libertarian, anti-authoritarian drivel. I'd rather live under Orban or practically any 'authoritarian' over Gary Johnson, that Jorgensen woman or any other low-IQ libertarian any day. The likes of Rothbard are putrid scum of the Earth, and, were they as competent as Marxists at acquiring authority, just as dangerous as them. Thankfully libertarians and anarchists are absolutely inept at acquiring authority: the only thing that prevents them from being as dangerous.
If the Left is ever removed from power (hypothetically speaking, of course), then you are the next target. The purification of the world requires the removal of all degenerate ideologies: all forms of Leftism—your beloved libertarianism, barely differentiable from anarchism, of course included.
This juvenile, rebellious freedom nonsense is antithetical to high civilization. There will be a totalitarianism that shall realize a society of saints, and it shall be realized from top down, or else, barbarism shall emerge victorious. There is no third option. You morons rebel against Left-wing Orthodoxy now because that is the status quo, but you will also rebel against a society of saints because you are, at heart, too degenerate to be a good fit for it.
You moronic caveman-minded barbarians will be destroyed: either by those further Leftward of you (the most likely scenario), or by my kind far to your Right.
Yes yes, Johnson and Jorgensen are totally in the same class as Rothbard. I mean, THEY'RE PRACTICALLY THE SAME PERSON. Strange how nobody respects Gary Johnson and EVERYBODY hates Jorgensen, even Lolbertarians.
Offtopic -- but when will you and Antonio figure out that shaming arguments don't work here? Particularly calling people stupid in so many words?
It's too bad because when you put together actual arguments, they're generally worth reading and frequently informative. I don't even think you're in the wrong here, but fuck off with the shaming bullshit.
I'd need a genuine argument to start with. Take Arch as an example. He and I have had long discussions, even though I know he's discussing his position in bad faith, specifically because he's making apparently reasonable arguments. He might start with some center-right objection with an underlying intent to make the reader draw an alt-right conclusion (as is his intention), but he doesn't start off like a stormfag. That's when we can have a good discussion even with malintent.
But most of the time it's just stormfags being stormfags. I'm just going to be called a "a fucking jewlover who wants to kill off the white race" anyway. They're not here for a discussion, they are here to pound the same point over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Blame jews, say nigger, be black pilled, call for violence. It's only ever that. If even one of them could take a "White version of Booker T. Washington" approach, I could at least respect them. But they won't. They don't even want to because they are Leftists.
And what I said was not shaming either. One of the foundational aspects of all alt-right authoritarian narratives is: order is never emergent. Literally never. I've argued this with them a thousand times. They genuinely believe that moral and social order exists only at the barrel of a gun. Nothing else works to them. Morality isn't emergent from social interactions, it is based on power assertion. Social organization doesn't come from relationships, it comes as an imposition from the state. You would think they should be arguing that social order comes from a kind of patriarchal ordering of society, where the older men impose an order on their children as a clan; but they don't even see that. They only see a kind of patriarchal tyranny as the source of all social and moral order, a man prepared to kill his friends, family, neighbors, wife, and children to maintain that order with unlimited violence. That moral ordering is not based on trust, truth, faith, love, respect, or obligation; only on coercion an threat of violence. And that is exactly what he's talking about here: kill until your order is dominant.
This authoritarianism mirrors Leftist narratives on power dynamics because they are Leftists. This isn't an insult, they literally can't see it emergent order. They don't believe it happens. When I say "I don't expect you to understand", it's because I know he actually, literally, does not.
Antonio is much worse. He sounds 100% like a redditor. Thought about replying to one of his comments to point that out but then realized I would almost be doing the same thing he does. I'm like... nobody cares what you tell them to do here man. It's also disrespectful if you think of the other poster as an adult. Can you imagine a grown man quietly correcting another grown man who isn't his son like that in real life?
You can't force any of those things, you'd actually have to have a culture that would accommodate it naturally.
Unfortunately, you're an authoritarian, so I don't expect you to understand.
The way you get a culture that would accommodate it "naturally" is your force it no different than the slow subversion of our "culture" through the academic system, media, etc... It has been done many times in history to great success.
You round up all politicians, business leaders and academics or otherwise prominent/influential people who disagree, kill them, then churn out propaganda for generations until eventually you get the "culture" you desire. You can come up with whatever excuse you want to kill the people too. You write the history.
Your re-writing of history fails to take into account that in each case the blowback of violent authoritarianism is a revival and resurgence of Leftist authoritarianism immediately once the current regime fails. But again, you wouldn't understand that.
Besides, why not just start with you? You're a Leftist degenerate with violent tendencies that can't be trusted in society. You'll end up attacking our friends, family, and loved ones simply because your an insecure, egomaniacal, psychopath who's projecting his personal failures onto everyone else. You're a wannabe school shooter. Why should you even be granted the right to declare your innocence when we can write whatever we want when your gone anyway?
Well said. I like your attitude. We need more of this attitude in society. Keep up the good thinking.
Kill all leftist degenerates and don't give them a fair trial. Just write whatever you want when they're gone. Do it!!!
Get the fuck out of here freak.
You are one dumb motherfucker: somehow you even manage to shit up a thread about Hungary with your low-IQ libertarian, anti-authoritarian drivel. I'd rather live under Orban or practically any 'authoritarian' over Gary Johnson, that Jorgensen woman or any other low-IQ libertarian any day. The likes of Rothbard are putrid scum of the Earth, and, were they as competent as Marxists at acquiring authority, just as dangerous as them. Thankfully libertarians and anarchists are absolutely inept at acquiring authority: the only thing that prevents them from being as dangerous.
If the Left is ever removed from power (hypothetically speaking, of course), then you are the next target. The purification of the world requires the removal of all degenerate ideologies: all forms of Leftism—your beloved libertarianism, barely differentiable from anarchism, of course included.
This juvenile, rebellious freedom nonsense is antithetical to high civilization. There will be a totalitarianism that shall realize a society of saints, and it shall be realized from top down, or else, barbarism shall emerge victorious. There is no third option. You morons rebel against Left-wing Orthodoxy now because that is the status quo, but you will also rebel against a society of saints because you are, at heart, too degenerate to be a good fit for it.
You moronic caveman-minded barbarians will be destroyed: either by those further Leftward of you (the most likely scenario), or by my kind far to your Right.
Yes yes, Johnson and Jorgensen are totally in the same class as Rothbard. I mean, THEY'RE PRACTICALLY THE SAME PERSON. Strange how nobody respects Gary Johnson and EVERYBODY hates Jorgensen, even Lolbertarians.
Good larp tho. 👌
Why wait?
Libertarianism is just the "backdoor" that evil uses to get a foothold in society. It's actually a worthless ideology in the long-term.
Offtopic -- but when will you and Antonio figure out that shaming arguments don't work here? Particularly calling people stupid in so many words?
It's too bad because when you put together actual arguments, they're generally worth reading and frequently informative. I don't even think you're in the wrong here, but fuck off with the shaming bullshit.
I'd need a genuine argument to start with. Take Arch as an example. He and I have had long discussions, even though I know he's discussing his position in bad faith, specifically because he's making apparently reasonable arguments. He might start with some center-right objection with an underlying intent to make the reader draw an alt-right conclusion (as is his intention), but he doesn't start off like a stormfag. That's when we can have a good discussion even with malintent.
But most of the time it's just stormfags being stormfags. I'm just going to be called a "a fucking jewlover who wants to kill off the white race" anyway. They're not here for a discussion, they are here to pound the same point over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Blame jews, say nigger, be black pilled, call for violence. It's only ever that. If even one of them could take a "White version of Booker T. Washington" approach, I could at least respect them. But they won't. They don't even want to because they are Leftists.
And what I said was not shaming either. One of the foundational aspects of all alt-right authoritarian narratives is: order is never emergent. Literally never. I've argued this with them a thousand times. They genuinely believe that moral and social order exists only at the barrel of a gun. Nothing else works to them. Morality isn't emergent from social interactions, it is based on power assertion. Social organization doesn't come from relationships, it comes as an imposition from the state. You would think they should be arguing that social order comes from a kind of patriarchal ordering of society, where the older men impose an order on their children as a clan; but they don't even see that. They only see a kind of patriarchal tyranny as the source of all social and moral order, a man prepared to kill his friends, family, neighbors, wife, and children to maintain that order with unlimited violence. That moral ordering is not based on trust, truth, faith, love, respect, or obligation; only on coercion an threat of violence. And that is exactly what he's talking about here: kill until your order is dominant.
This authoritarianism mirrors Leftist narratives on power dynamics because they are Leftists. This isn't an insult, they literally can't see it emergent order. They don't believe it happens. When I say "I don't expect you to understand", it's because I know he actually, literally, does not.
Antonio is much worse. He sounds 100% like a redditor. Thought about replying to one of his comments to point that out but then realized I would almost be doing the same thing he does. I'm like... nobody cares what you tell them to do here man. It's also disrespectful if you think of the other poster as an adult. Can you imagine a grown man quietly correcting another grown man who isn't his son like that in real life?