I'll say here what I said elsewhere about the vax.
If he believes that people were lying about the vax, and that not enough info was out there to make a clear decision, then there was no reason not to wait and see along with the rest of us. Regardless of your like/dislike of government or corporations, at the time there was not enough info to make a judgement call.
The fact that they wanted to classify the info about the vax for 70 years was more than reason for me to never get it. And it should have been for him too. No one hides all the good positive information from the public if they want to encourage you to do something.
Hell, I avoided it out of laziness or inertia. Then when all the adverse reactions began to be reported, I congratulated myself on my sage forethought.
The government’s tell that it was all a lie was the fact that they were giving it away. IF Covid had been as deadly as they claimed, and IF the shot was really safe and effective, a single dose would have been hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars.
I specifically remember two ad campaigns for it. One was winning free Krispy Kreme donuts for life, and the other was a video of then-Mayor of New York City Andrew Cuomo (brother to CNN's Chris Cuomo) doing a commercial where he ate a hamburger and had the most disgusted look on his face like he couldn't stand the taste. "When you think of vaccination, think of this" he said, as he tempted you with free burgers for showing your Vaxx card.
I supported Operation Warpspeed. Hell, I still do.
Removing safety and regulatory barriers is literally the only way you were ever going to be able to get a vaccine for a novel virus within 5 years, let alone 1. If you are told that 20 million Americans are dead by December, then you are going to have to cut corners. But that by definition means the idea that it is "safe and effective" is entirely out the window. By definition, there is no way to do long term testing. By definition, you should treat it like chemotherapy to cancer: if you're dead anyway, you might as well give it a shot. All it was ever gonna do was keep you out of the hospital, and that's important because the fatality rate for going on a respirator with Covid was 85%. The moment Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectine could be used to treat symptoms, those were always the better alternative.
This also means that under no circumstance should it be mandated. The virus was endemic by April of 2020. No vaccine on Earth could have stopped it even at that time, and still can't. All of "Zero Covid" is a malicious criminal fraud, that has no basis in scientific reality.
I knew all this at the time in 2020, and I was here with all of you. We're not leading scientific "Top Minds", we just read some of the documents and understood the obvious. There's no excuse for what happened in 2020, and no amnesty for it either.
I get the sentiment, and I agree that in extreme ciecumstances risky decisive behaviour is justified.
What I don't understand, and I don't get why this isn't a bigger talking point, is why we thought a vaccine would work at all.
By the time serious talk about developing a vaccine was underway, we were already on the second major variant of the virus, and there were around 1000 sub-variants that had also been observed. By the time the vax was released for Alpha, we were on Omnicron and Alpha was basically extinct.
There will never be a vaccine for SARS-COV2 because, even if you do everything by the book, test it to the nines, a new strain will bypass it before it can be developed. In much the same way that, despite giving the flu shot for 30 years, flu rates haven't noticably dropped.
Fundamentally, the issue isn't so much that a vaccine could work, in theory it can, and you can develop vaccines for multiple strains. It's just that this thing was never a vaccine in the first place.
Novavax is the only group producing an actual protein based vaccine that could actually create immunity. So what did the FDA do? Ban it's dispersal to the American public by refusing to give it the emergency status the fucking mRNA ones got until fucking September of last year, even though it had been available since January of 2021.
I'll say here what I said elsewhere about the vax.
If he believes that people were lying about the vax, and that not enough info was out there to make a clear decision, then there was no reason not to wait and see along with the rest of us. Regardless of your like/dislike of government or corporations, at the time there was not enough info to make a judgement call.
The fact that they wanted to classify the info about the vax for 70 years was more than reason for me to never get it. And it should have been for him too. No one hides all the good positive information from the public if they want to encourage you to do something.
Hell, I avoided it out of laziness or inertia. Then when all the adverse reactions began to be reported, I congratulated myself on my sage forethought.
The government’s tell that it was all a lie was the fact that they were giving it away. IF Covid had been as deadly as they claimed, and IF the shot was really safe and effective, a single dose would have been hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars.
Not just giving but bribing and coercing people to inject it.
I specifically remember two ad campaigns for it. One was winning free Krispy Kreme donuts for life, and the other was a video of then-Mayor of New York City Andrew Cuomo (brother to CNN's Chris Cuomo) doing a commercial where he ate a hamburger and had the most disgusted look on his face like he couldn't stand the taste. "When you think of vaccination, think of this" he said, as he tempted you with free burgers for showing your Vaxx card.
There were so many alarm bells and red flags you'd have to be fucking spastic not to realise
I supported Operation Warpspeed. Hell, I still do.
Removing safety and regulatory barriers is literally the only way you were ever going to be able to get a vaccine for a novel virus within 5 years, let alone 1. If you are told that 20 million Americans are dead by December, then you are going to have to cut corners. But that by definition means the idea that it is "safe and effective" is entirely out the window. By definition, there is no way to do long term testing. By definition, you should treat it like chemotherapy to cancer: if you're dead anyway, you might as well give it a shot. All it was ever gonna do was keep you out of the hospital, and that's important because the fatality rate for going on a respirator with Covid was 85%. The moment Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectine could be used to treat symptoms, those were always the better alternative.
This also means that under no circumstance should it be mandated. The virus was endemic by April of 2020. No vaccine on Earth could have stopped it even at that time, and still can't. All of "Zero Covid" is a malicious criminal fraud, that has no basis in scientific reality.
I knew all this at the time in 2020, and I was here with all of you. We're not leading scientific "Top Minds", we just read some of the documents and understood the obvious. There's no excuse for what happened in 2020, and no amnesty for it either.
I get the sentiment, and I agree that in extreme ciecumstances risky decisive behaviour is justified.
What I don't understand, and I don't get why this isn't a bigger talking point, is why we thought a vaccine would work at all.
By the time serious talk about developing a vaccine was underway, we were already on the second major variant of the virus, and there were around 1000 sub-variants that had also been observed. By the time the vax was released for Alpha, we were on Omnicron and Alpha was basically extinct.
There will never be a vaccine for SARS-COV2 because, even if you do everything by the book, test it to the nines, a new strain will bypass it before it can be developed. In much the same way that, despite giving the flu shot for 30 years, flu rates haven't noticably dropped.
Fundamentally, the issue isn't so much that a vaccine could work, in theory it can, and you can develop vaccines for multiple strains. It's just that this thing was never a vaccine in the first place.
Novavax is the only group producing an actual protein based vaccine that could actually create immunity. So what did the FDA do? Ban it's dispersal to the American public by refusing to give it the emergency status the fucking mRNA ones got until fucking September of last year, even though it had been available since January of 2021.
exactly this - nothing to hide? why hiding