First, the fact of no data with an experimental treatment is all the info I need to decide not to get it.
Second, there was tons of population level data that clearly showed death rates weren't generally up. There was data to show that cases and deaths were actively being over-counted. There was data that showed who was getting sick in terms of age and risk factors (cough retirement homes cough). There were studies showing effective alternative treatments. There was a ton of data throwing the official narrative into question, if not complete falsehood.
I would love to see Adams ask a "skeptic" to send him the data they used to make their decision (I've got about 100 bookmarked pages and files) rather than just chaulk it up to luck.
I’d rather Crowder went independent, but he’s clearly just trying to drum up drama about all this to launch his own thing, and that I don’t like. Love Crowder, but not that. Pretty sure he’s bipolar.
I literally just gave an example of why it's not just drama lmao.
Edit: He was banned for discussing the cdc data itself and quoting them. This would run afoul of DW's comtract terms. I can remember how the DW adamantly refused to address it till youtube allowed it.
And Crowder knows they’re the ‘play by the rules brand’. If someone sends you a deal you don’t like you red line it and send it back, and plenty of times you can’t make a deal. Everybody does that. The only reason Crowder is making this a big public thing is to drum up drama and publicity for his own launch.
I know the many reasons Crowder’s been banned, I’ve been in Mug Club a while. Crowder most likely left The Blaze for similar reasons. They can’t support him on terms he’d like if he gets banned all the time.
I’m not saying Crowder SHOULD have been banned. That’s a different thing.
As an analogy: I’m sure DW has made Alex Jones offers. And I’m sure they couldn’t come to an agreement because he gets nuked everywhere. Which is why Jones stays on his own.
I like Crowder the most out of all the conservative talking types. And even I’d be hesitant to ever do business with him after this. He’s willing to blow up the internet with private conversations to either leverage a better deal out of you, or use the drama to profit. That’s bad business.
You’re probably right. Unfortunately most people here are firmly in the pro-Crowder, anti-DW camp. I don’t think they’re really viewing this objectively.
Crowder framed his side as “we need to stop catering to big tech censorship rules,” which isn’t really the issue. I think everyone would like that, but you can’t use their platforms if you do that, and DW’s business model is catering to them there and then on their own site having whatever they want. Same as Crowder’s really, only they avoid hot button topics. The only real way to do that is to make your own platform like DW did and then take the blows as they come on social media. Crowder probably left the Blaze because he kept getting banned and couldn’t do ad reads to the audience sponsors had paid for.
The real issue is them giving him an offer and them him either trying to leverage public opinion against them by recording and leaking their very rudimentary negotiation, or just making a big public display at their expense in an attempt to launch his own service. That’s a dick move you just don’t do in business. Tim Pool got the same kind of offer and declined to do his own thing and they still help each other out. That’s how it should have been with Crowder.
I looked at data but you can never be sure what’s real and what isn’t, and we never know anything that quickly anyway. I saw high end data simulations showing we’d all end up probably getting it anyway, and nobody I knew and even nobody they knew was at all dying from it. Then on top of that, there wasn’t a chance in hell we’d develop a vaccine for a coronavirus in less than a year when we hadn’t been able to do that for influenza. Then when they kept saying the shot would protect you from new variants, I double knew they were just saying shit. They even said the shot would be better than natural immunity, as in having gotten Covid and gotten over it.
The people that supported it the most were also known liars and bullshitters.
Yeah, I don't get his "there was no data" spiel.
First, the fact of no data with an experimental treatment is all the info I need to decide not to get it.
Second, there was tons of population level data that clearly showed death rates weren't generally up. There was data to show that cases and deaths were actively being over-counted. There was data that showed who was getting sick in terms of age and risk factors (cough retirement homes cough). There were studies showing effective alternative treatments. There was a ton of data throwing the official narrative into question, if not complete falsehood.
I would love to see Adams ask a "skeptic" to send him the data they used to make their decision (I've got about 100 bookmarked pages and files) rather than just chaulk it up to luck.
I got most of my info from Crowder who supplied his sources for it. The same dude the DW would be fine suppressing
I’d rather Crowder went independent, but he’s clearly just trying to drum up drama about all this to launch his own thing, and that I don’t like. Love Crowder, but not that. Pretty sure he’s bipolar.
I literally just gave an example of why it's not just drama lmao.
Edit: He was banned for discussing the cdc data itself and quoting them. This would run afoul of DW's comtract terms. I can remember how the DW adamantly refused to address it till youtube allowed it.
And Crowder knows they’re the ‘play by the rules brand’. If someone sends you a deal you don’t like you red line it and send it back, and plenty of times you can’t make a deal. Everybody does that. The only reason Crowder is making this a big public thing is to drum up drama and publicity for his own launch.
I know the many reasons Crowder’s been banned, I’ve been in Mug Club a while. Crowder most likely left The Blaze for similar reasons. They can’t support him on terms he’d like if he gets banned all the time.
I’m not saying Crowder SHOULD have been banned. That’s a different thing.
As an analogy: I’m sure DW has made Alex Jones offers. And I’m sure they couldn’t come to an agreement because he gets nuked everywhere. Which is why Jones stays on his own.
I like Crowder the most out of all the conservative talking types. And even I’d be hesitant to ever do business with him after this. He’s willing to blow up the internet with private conversations to either leverage a better deal out of you, or use the drama to profit. That’s bad business.
You’re probably right. Unfortunately most people here are firmly in the pro-Crowder, anti-DW camp. I don’t think they’re really viewing this objectively.
Crowder framed his side as “we need to stop catering to big tech censorship rules,” which isn’t really the issue. I think everyone would like that, but you can’t use their platforms if you do that, and DW’s business model is catering to them there and then on their own site having whatever they want. Same as Crowder’s really, only they avoid hot button topics. The only real way to do that is to make your own platform like DW did and then take the blows as they come on social media. Crowder probably left the Blaze because he kept getting banned and couldn’t do ad reads to the audience sponsors had paid for.
The real issue is them giving him an offer and them him either trying to leverage public opinion against them by recording and leaking their very rudimentary negotiation, or just making a big public display at their expense in an attempt to launch his own service. That’s a dick move you just don’t do in business. Tim Pool got the same kind of offer and declined to do his own thing and they still help each other out. That’s how it should have been with Crowder.
I mean, it wasn’t even that hard to be right about this. All you had to do was distrust “the experts” by default instead of trusting them by default.
I looked at data but you can never be sure what’s real and what isn’t, and we never know anything that quickly anyway. I saw high end data simulations showing we’d all end up probably getting it anyway, and nobody I knew and even nobody they knew was at all dying from it. Then on top of that, there wasn’t a chance in hell we’d develop a vaccine for a coronavirus in less than a year when we hadn’t been able to do that for influenza. Then when they kept saying the shot would protect you from new variants, I double knew they were just saying shit. They even said the shot would be better than natural immunity, as in having gotten Covid and gotten over it.
The people that supported it the most were also known liars and bullshitters.