I’d rather Crowder went independent, but he’s clearly just trying to drum up drama about all this to launch his own thing, and that I don’t like. Love Crowder, but not that. Pretty sure he’s bipolar.
I literally just gave an example of why it's not just drama lmao.
Edit: He was banned for discussing the cdc data itself and quoting them. This would run afoul of DW's comtract terms. I can remember how the DW adamantly refused to address it till youtube allowed it.
And Crowder knows they’re the ‘play by the rules brand’. If someone sends you a deal you don’t like you red line it and send it back, and plenty of times you can’t make a deal. Everybody does that. The only reason Crowder is making this a big public thing is to drum up drama and publicity for his own launch.
I know the many reasons Crowder’s been banned, I’ve been in Mug Club a while. Crowder most likely left The Blaze for similar reasons. They can’t support him on terms he’d like if he gets banned all the time.
I’m not saying Crowder SHOULD have been banned. That’s a different thing.
As an analogy: I’m sure DW has made Alex Jones offers. And I’m sure they couldn’t come to an agreement because he gets nuked everywhere. Which is why Jones stays on his own.
I like Crowder the most out of all the conservative talking types. And even I’d be hesitant to ever do business with him after this. He’s willing to blow up the internet with private conversations to either leverage a better deal out of you, or use the drama to profit. That’s bad business.
His own independent Mug Club membership platform, kind of like what Tim Pool did with Timcast, only presumably just being the Crowder show and them screwing around, not an attempt at a media network.
You’re probably right. Unfortunately most people here are firmly in the pro-Crowder, anti-DW camp. I don’t think they’re really viewing this objectively.
Crowder framed his side as “we need to stop catering to big tech censorship rules,” which isn’t really the issue. I think everyone would like that, but you can’t use their platforms if you do that, and DW’s business model is catering to them there and then on their own site having whatever they want. Same as Crowder’s really, only they avoid hot button topics. The only real way to do that is to make your own platform like DW did and then take the blows as they come on social media. Crowder probably left the Blaze because he kept getting banned and couldn’t do ad reads to the audience sponsors had paid for.
The real issue is them giving him an offer and them him either trying to leverage public opinion against them by recording and leaking their very rudimentary negotiation, or just making a big public display at their expense in an attempt to launch his own service. That’s a dick move you just don’t do in business. Tim Pool got the same kind of offer and declined to do his own thing and they still help each other out. That’s how it should have been with Crowder.
Crowder positioned this very smartly so that most people — who don’t know anything about business contracts — would instinctively side with Crowder. This is extremely diabolical, if truly intentional on Crowder’s part.
Only argument I can see for it not being intentional is that Crowder’s bipolar and is in manic mode. Crowder has signed plenty of deals like this. Shapiro was his first fucking lawyer coincidentally.
I’d rather Crowder went independent, but he’s clearly just trying to drum up drama about all this to launch his own thing, and that I don’t like. Love Crowder, but not that. Pretty sure he’s bipolar.
I literally just gave an example of why it's not just drama lmao.
Edit: He was banned for discussing the cdc data itself and quoting them. This would run afoul of DW's comtract terms. I can remember how the DW adamantly refused to address it till youtube allowed it.
And Crowder knows they’re the ‘play by the rules brand’. If someone sends you a deal you don’t like you red line it and send it back, and plenty of times you can’t make a deal. Everybody does that. The only reason Crowder is making this a big public thing is to drum up drama and publicity for his own launch.
I know the many reasons Crowder’s been banned, I’ve been in Mug Club a while. Crowder most likely left The Blaze for similar reasons. They can’t support him on terms he’d like if he gets banned all the time.
I’m not saying Crowder SHOULD have been banned. That’s a different thing.
As an analogy: I’m sure DW has made Alex Jones offers. And I’m sure they couldn’t come to an agreement because he gets nuked everywhere. Which is why Jones stays on his own.
I like Crowder the most out of all the conservative talking types. And even I’d be hesitant to ever do business with him after this. He’s willing to blow up the internet with private conversations to either leverage a better deal out of you, or use the drama to profit. That’s bad business.
What would he be "launching"?
His own independent Mug Club membership platform, kind of like what Tim Pool did with Timcast, only presumably just being the Crowder show and them screwing around, not an attempt at a media network.
You’re probably right. Unfortunately most people here are firmly in the pro-Crowder, anti-DW camp. I don’t think they’re really viewing this objectively.
Crowder framed his side as “we need to stop catering to big tech censorship rules,” which isn’t really the issue. I think everyone would like that, but you can’t use their platforms if you do that, and DW’s business model is catering to them there and then on their own site having whatever they want. Same as Crowder’s really, only they avoid hot button topics. The only real way to do that is to make your own platform like DW did and then take the blows as they come on social media. Crowder probably left the Blaze because he kept getting banned and couldn’t do ad reads to the audience sponsors had paid for.
The real issue is them giving him an offer and them him either trying to leverage public opinion against them by recording and leaking their very rudimentary negotiation, or just making a big public display at their expense in an attempt to launch his own service. That’s a dick move you just don’t do in business. Tim Pool got the same kind of offer and declined to do his own thing and they still help each other out. That’s how it should have been with Crowder.
Crowder positioned this very smartly so that most people — who don’t know anything about business contracts — would instinctively side with Crowder. This is extremely diabolical, if truly intentional on Crowder’s part.
I'm literally a fucking lawyer
Only argument I can see for it not being intentional is that Crowder’s bipolar and is in manic mode. Crowder has signed plenty of deals like this. Shapiro was his first fucking lawyer coincidentally.